Hi, Power and home buttons held is the official way, is it not; it would seem unwise to me to bash away repetitively at buttons in the hope that the poor phone will re-boot in despair at the insult applied to it.
Regards, Mike -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: 31 May 2012 11:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Force rebooting of iPhone - Was Re: is it normal Hi all, I feel that what David and Neil have stated are more correct for what it's worth. I personally have not looked up or researched whether or not it's a good idea to force a reboot via the power button being pressed multiple times, but on the surface it just seems silly and not safe to me. At least when you do the power button/home button for 12 seconds, it's giving the iOS system a chance to try and do what it can so that files and data are not being accessed while the phone is forced to reboot. This is why it's probably a several second process. Additionally, it could be that it's on purpose so you don't accidentally reboot your phone without meaning to. Lastly, folks, please update the subject lines. <smile> -- Raul A. Gallegos Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. - George Bush Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 5/31/2012 6:10 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > Hello Grant, > > My friend is some sort of developer. You can argue for crashing the springboard all you want saying it will not corrupt any code. My friend says there is a very slight chance that it could corrupt code. I prefer not to take that chance. I have corrupted code in a pocket pc which then required me to do a complete rebuild from my computer. As this takes time which I prefer not to spend in such fashion, I choose not to take the chance. > > An Apple support person is the one who told me that the home and power buttons simultaneously for 10 to 12 seconds reboots the phone and properly restores the driver stacks. From my timing of both restarts, the reboot takes longer for booting up than the power cycling for booting up. > > To be precise, the higher level support specialist told me to first turn the iPhone off then on, and once it has come fully on, do the reboot. > > Sorry, but I trust both of these people over what you are saying on the list. My developer friend is a software engineer. The Apple tech support person was in the higher tier of support. > > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 31/05/2012, at 19:28, Grant Hardy<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced >> reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system >> corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as >> I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur >> with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down. >> >> Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS >> platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's >> the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any >> critical user data. >> >> I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list. >> I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people >> understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data >> corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a >> theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little >> technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing >> of the iOS system" statement, which this is not. >> >> Warmly :) >> >> Grant >> >> >> >> On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav<[email protected]> wrote: >>> Adrian, >>> >>> I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice >>> Over is a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a >>> handset which is rarely power cycled. >>> >>> My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App >>> Switcher daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after. >>> >>> This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the >>> first stuttering symptoms appeared. >>> >>> In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that >>> there is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced >>> collapsing of the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key. >>> >>> The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a >>> result maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part >>> of your user data. If this happened at the exact moment you >>> performed the 5 successive presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data. >>> >>> The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the >>> same time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the >>> iOS as a sort of. I want to reboot this device, prepare for it >>> please and stop doing anything critical notification to the device. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> >>> Talks List Administrator >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an >>> Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all >>> your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit >>> www.talknav.com >>> >>> URL: - www.talknav.com >>> e-mail: - [email protected] >>> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >>> >>> On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote: >>> >>>> is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read >>>> using voice over i find it stutters a lot. does any one know of a >>>> way i can fix it? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> "VIPhone" Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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