Grant,

In addition, whilst it may not be a forced collapsing of the entire iOS 
platform, it is never the less, a forced collapsing, or whatever word you wish 
to insert, meaning to push or force the software into doing something it either 
was not intended to do, or wishes to do at that time etc.

You are correct that this is a theory, I never stated it as fact, simply that 
pushing software to do something that it is not supposed to do is never a good 
idea and can have unexpected consequences.

If this spring board feature stops working, is this also the area where 
currently active apps are held, i.e. linked to the App Switcher? or once an app 
is launched is it passed to the app switcher, which, hopefully is in dependant?

if they are one in the same, and you have an app open with data in it, and you 
collapse the spring board, then surely this might lead to data instability?


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Neil Barnfather

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On 31 May 2012, at 08:28, Grant Hardy wrote:

> Hi Neil, the twelve-second holding down of HOME and POWER is a forced
> reboot, rather like pressing the REBOOT button on a PC. If system
> corruption could occur on an iPhone using the other method (which as
> I've said I'm skeptical about), then it most certainly could occur
> with the reboot method as well, which does not shut anything down.
> 
> Crashing your springboard is not "a forced collapsing" of the iOS
> platform; the springboard is one part of the iOS architecture. It's
> the part of iOS from which apps are launched. It does not store any
> critical user data.
> 
> I think there are a fair few misconceptions about this topic on list.
> I don't mean to be argumentative but it is important that people
> understand them, and that if you have a theory (such as that data
> corruption could occur) that you make clear that it is just that--a
> theory. People who are stating this theory have relatively little
> technical data to back it up--case and point, the "forced collapsing
> of the iOS system" statement, which this is not.
> 
> Warmly :)
> 
> Grant
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/31/12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Adrian,
>> 
>> I agree very much with David's suggestions, the stuttering of Voice Over is
>> a classic symptom of an over full App Switcher and / or a handset which is
>> rarely power cycled.
>> 
>> My strong recommendation for all iOS users, is to empty their App Switcher
>> daily and perform a power cycle immediately there after.
>> 
>> This has kept my iPhone and iPad running smoothly ever since the first
>> stuttering symptoms appeared.
>> 
>> In addition, as a system admin I also hold to David's assertion that there
>> is a possible chance of corruption by performing the forced collapsing of
>> the iOS platform resulting from the 5 successive presses of the power key.
>> 
>> The iOS device at this time is not expecting this crash and as a result
>> maybe accessing a key string of code, or a significant part of your user
>> data. If this happened at the exact moment you performed the 5 successive
>> presses of the power key, it is conceivable that it might corrupt data.
>> 
>> The 12 second or however long it is, press of power and home at the same
>> time, is far more logical and sensible. As it is coded into the iOS as a
>> sort of… I want to reboot this device, prepare for it please and stop doing
>> anything critical notification to the device.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> On 30 May 2012, at 23:17, adrian wrote:
>> 
>>> is it normal for voice over to stutter a lot? every time i read using
>>> voice over i find it stutters a lot. does any one know of a way i can fix
>>> it?
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