The Jitter Bug is the one for older people, but not helpful if you do not have usable sight.
I'm 83, use iPhone, but years of experience of blindness makes a big difference. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 6:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: In need of assistance Hi Kait, The majority of people on this list are very helpful and will go out of their way to assist if we can. I think starting with the iphone is a great option for your gran, However knowing what my sighted 83 year old mother is like, It could be a big learning curve for her, But hey it sounds like you have a lot of patients towards helping her the best you can. Depending on how she finds the phone to use for a start, There is a phone out there which I can’t remember the details of but is built for the older generations with voice output and larger buttons if that might be a more possible option for her. But until you work that one out with her , By all means keep throwing the questions at us and we’ll answer for you the best we can. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kait Forbes Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2021 8:27 am To: [email protected] Subject: Re: In need of assistance Stargazer, Wish i knew how to respond to this email? I assure you I was not looking for a magic bullet but instructions on how to set up my Gran's phone for her. Thought a little background would help. Did not think that would offend anyone? The reason I chose this particular phone was for the siri.or anything voice related. I do not wish to stress her out over anything at this time. But a phone in any form is a preference to nothing at all. If it doesn't pan out, I intend to keep looking. Things aren't set in stone. I really thought and was given to believe that this was the site to come to for phone support on a personal level .It gives one that comradery feeling. I think if you want to know and learn something that is so darn important, go to the source. I still believe that sighted or not. Thank you for your advice and support and I will also try and keep in mind what I am here for. Kait On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 3:14 PM Star Gazer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: There is a phone called the Lively Flip that may be more useful then an Iphone. I see their ads when I’m watching Judge Judy and some of the old shows on Me Tv. That may be more your grandma’s speed (and maybe yours too) then an Iphone. Remember, and a lot of people make this mistake, just because something is designed with blindness in mind, doesn’t mean it is inherently easy to use, sometimes just the opposite can happen. If your grandma wanted to learn an Iphone, then it is set up so that she could do that, but if she doesn’t, and you yourself don’t use one, I don’t know why this idea is so stuck in your head. This community can’t make you or your grandma want to use an Iphone, it can’t make its inherent nature into something you or she will find enjoyable. What we could do is tell you how your grandma can download audio books or tell you how to download audio books for her. We can tell her how to send a picture to the grandkids. We can tell her/you how to save a picture the grandkids sent her. We can tell her/you how to text. We can’t make her do any of these things. Given what you’ve said, I’d look at the Lively Flip which seems like it may come with some other services you guys may find useful. Please understand again just because grandma can’t see doesn’t mean this list can hit a magic button and make her the best and most willing iPhone user on the planet. We can’t do this for anybody. Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Kait Forbes <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 2:07 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: In need of assistance My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that and understand why. At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she need help when I am not home. I pay for help at the moment but that will only be for a short time. All things are not in place at this time and I feel more secure knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone would be number one priority. I am reaching out to this community for any form of help it may offer. I hope this explanation will help? thank you , kait On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use one. If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides players so no need for a phone. What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by other means? Would an Alexa be easier for her? I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the phone is so important? Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: Kait Forbes <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: In need of assistance Everything is completely new to her, yes. And me as well as it pertains to the blind community. As far as I am aware, computers are not her thing. She is aware of them but through me only. I have never been in this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive criticism and hard work. She will be a challenge that is for sure. We are starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help her. I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up the darn phone it's a start. On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is your Grandmother's ability when it comes to technology? Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Kait Forbes Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: In need of assistance Good morning everyone, Okay, Let me give you a bit of background. I Care for my Grandmother, she is my mom. With recent illness she is now almost totally blind. I need to Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone. I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us. With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her. I bought her the iPhone SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for her? Many thanks for your help and support here. Kait -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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