Donna,
Thanks.  I will keep that in mind.  Good words to follow, In fact that is
what I am going to do. I have received so much information from this site
and I thank my lucky stars it was recommended to me.  I feel fortunate and
I now have a basis to which I can follow.  Lots and Lots of good stuff.
And lots of work.  Thanks to all you good people.
Kait

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 12:56 AM Donna Casteen <mermaid71...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Kait, you are a granddaughter to be admired & treasured. I want to share
> my story with you. I lost my vision at age 45 following surgery. Being
> thrown into blindness was difficult to accept & have to deal with,
> everything was abruptly taken away, my independence, pride, self
> confidence, interests/hobbies, the beauty of nature, the smiles on the
> faces of family & friends…Everything! I spent 3 years cycling through the
> first 4 stages of grief, denial, anger, bargaining & depression, before
> finally reaching the fifth & final stage, acceptance. When “I” felt that
> “I” was close to putting a stage of grief behind me & move on to the next
> stage, someone in my life would say or do something that would set me back.
> Even though their comments or actions were said & done with the best
> intentions & my well being in mind- I saw the actions as them rushing me to
> heal, while showing me that they did not have confidence in my ability to
> find “My” own way to do things that would work for “Me.” Like you, my best
> friend of 30+ years & my parents felt that it was very important for me to
> learn to use a smartphone so that they could keep in contact with me & they
> thought that a smartphone would aid in my independence. Learning to use a
> smartphone was at the bottom of my “New Normal” bucket list, especially
> when my flip phone was still usable & would solve  their problem of them
> needing to be in constant contact with me, because of their worries of me
> being alone. Labeling the microwave, stove, washer, dryer, helping to
> organize the kitchen food pantry, the refrigerator, the cleaning & personal
> care items was what I needed & wanted the most. Things that would give me a
> sense of independence & the feeling of accomplishment when I was able to
> prepare my own food, take care of my personal needs & clean my own house.
> Why not use a dot of puff paint to mark the answer call & some of the
> numbers on the dial pad on her flip phone? get her an AlexaShow  & setup
> contacts & Alexa calling. The AlexaShow is simpler to teach, easier to
> learn to use, being that it works by voice commands & can do almost
> everything that her having a smartphone can do. She can make & accept
> calls, send text messages, listen to music & books, play games & have items
> identified for her. Leave the smartphone with voiceover on with her. Show
> her how to turn the phone on & how to charge the phone. Encourage her to
> explore the phone alone, let her interest & curiosity guide her, not what
> you think that she needs to learn.  Be supportive by letting her try to do
> things on her own before you offer suggestions, advice or guidance, but do
> not step in & complete a task for her, unless she agrees to let you do so.
> I do not accept change well. I am stubborn & my pride & self independence
> sometimes gets in the way of me asking for help. Once my family & friends
> stepped back & let me take the lead in showing what my abilities were, it
> made their wanting to step in & help easier for me to accept. Feeling
> helpless & useless to oneself & to others is a very dark & lonely place to
> be.Don’t forget that your Grandma needs her own sunshine.
>
> Donna
>
> My Gran is not a very receptive person, she never was but I respect that
> and understand why.  At this time we are not set up as maybe you may be and
> I wish not to leave her alone without some form of assistance should she
> need help when I am not home.  I pay for help at the moment but that will
> only be for a short time.  All things are not in place at this time and I
> feel more secure  knowing she can reach me. Please understand, I am
> pressured to have some form of continuity and safety and having a phone
> would be number one priority.  I am reaching out to this community for any
> form of help it may offer.  I hope this explanation will help?
>
> thank you ,
>
> kait
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 1:50 PM Star Gazer <pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> May I ask why? If she’s happy without a phone, she doesn’t need to use
> one.
>
> If she wants BARD books she can get them on cartridges and NLS provides
> players so no need for a phone.
>
> What all does she want to do with the phone that can’t be accomplished by
> other means?
>
> Would an Alexa be easier for her?
>
>
>
> I think I’m stuck on what you want, what your grandma wants and why the
> phone is so important?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Kait Forbes <miss.k.t.for...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Everything is completely new to her, yes.  And me as well as it pertains
> to the blind community.  As far as I am aware, computers are not her
> thing.  She is  aware of them but through me only.  I have never been in
> this position to teach anyone anything but I am not afraid of constructive
> criticism and hard work.  She will be a challenge that is for sure.  We are
> starting from scratch and she refuses at this point to let someone help
> her.  I know this is her denial stage but if I can get her to just pick up
> the darn phone it's a start.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> Are you sighted trying to help your almost blind Grandmother and what is
> your Grandmother's ability when  it comes to technology?
>
> Has she been using a smartphone and computers when she could still see and
> has an understanding abut basic concepts or would it be completely new to
> her? Knowing this would probably help a lot when somebody tried to help out.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of
> *Kait Forbes
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 2, 2021 8:37 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* In need of assistance
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>
>
> Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she
> is my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to
> Help her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her
> phone.  I need help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do
> this for us.  With your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.
> I bought her the iPhone  SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso
> 14.5 with that in mind Please , How in the world can I set this up for
> her?  Many thanks for your help and support here.
>
> Kait
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