Hi Les,
Yes, if indeed it is $100 for 3 years that is 3 times as expensive, but I fully expect that the Seeing Eye app will also be leagues better than Motion GPS Drive for a blind person because all Motion GPS Drive gives you is turn-by-turn navigation. I would hazard a guess here and say that most of us in most situations would simply prefer an app which gives us the information we need for walking regular and familiar routes like intersection announcement and so on. Of course if I go somewhere where I haven't been before or only go once every 2 years having turn-by-turn is good, but right now I use apps like Ariadne, Blindsquare or Sendero LookAround a lot more than I use navigon which I prefer over Motion GPS Drive. Lastly, if they charge $100 for 3 years, that works out to 9.1 Cents a day, even at $100 per year it is 27 Cents a day. Is it worth just over a quarter a day if the app is really fantastic and if it basically replaced all the other apps? To me it would be. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:25 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Decent OCR? Hi Richard, Actually, they are not on the same pricing structure. I use motion X GPS Drive and it cost $10 per year. So even if they go at hundred dollars for three years, that is pricier.d Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: Hi David, I of course agree with most of what you said. However, to be fair to Sendero, the announcement at CSUN said that it will probably cost $100 for one to three years, they had not settled on exactly how the pricing structure would work. If it would be for three years, then you are in the same ball park as something like Motion X gps for their turn-by-turn text to speech. If it is $100 per year, I am not sure they will get enough takers to make it worth while. But, that is straying off the topic of this thread a bit. As for the scanning, using the StandScan Pro gets better results for me than the KNFB Reader on a regular basis. When Prizmo 2 comes out this week, it will be interesting to see how it compares to the last TextGrabber for speed as well as other features. I have to say, at this point, I'm a TextGrabber convert. Later, Richard Richard (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) On May 12, 2013, at 8:15 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for your reply. The OCR engine in TextGrabber and Prizmo is newer and better than the OCR engine in KNFB Reader. When these apps are used in conjunction with a product like the StandScan Pro, their abilities really shine through. Even the hardware is better with the iPhone 5 verses the Nokia N86. Using my StandScan Pro and TextGrabber, I get OCR times of just a few seconds with quality that is equivalent to a desktop system. I have heard rumours that KNFB Reading Technologies is considering creating a KNFB Reader for the iPhone. Their concern is whether people will pay several hundred dollars for the product. By my calculations, ten StandScan Pro boxes would come to $300, which I suspect would be the minimum asking price from KNFB Reading. I personally would not pay such a high price as it is not worth that kind of money to me considering I get better results with significantly less expensive equipment. If you question my significant price expectations for KNFB Reader on the iPhone, consider the precedence. Sendero Group, the makers of GPS for the blind, announced at CSUN that the GPS app which the Seeing Eye invested in the creation of will probably sell for a subscription fee of $100 per year. With this pricing structure, they are charging $25 more per year than they charged for map updates with Mobile Geo. I learned over a decade ago that it is almost always much more difficult for an adaptive tech company to switch over to a mainstream market. The fact is, there is no way consumers who are not blind will pay anywhere near that kind of money for OCR or GPS when the alternatives are all significantly less than $100 without any sort of subscription models. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 12/05/2013, at 16:58, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, You'll probably get a lot of replies and the 2 apps which people will recommend the most will be Prizmo and Text Grabber. You may also get a few recommendations for Text Detective and SayText. Apps like Prizmo or Text Grabber are probably every bit as good recognizing stuff as KNFB Reader is. The main cause for poor results are poorly taken pictures where either the lighting is not good enough, the person who takes the picture holds the phone too close, too far away or not parallel to the text etc. People who use the Standscan which is a simple cardboard box where the phone rests above the page you want to scan and looks down through a hole in the top pretty much all get excellent results that often rival those of a flatbed scanner. But it's just the nature of the beast that a blind person can't take a perfect picture, make sure the page is not in shadow and all that. David from New Zealand was a KNFB Reader user before and now uses Prizmo and Text Grabber and he has several times posted reviews where he explains exactly why OCR on an iPhone can be just as good or better. It is my understanding that one of the features which made KNFB Reader relatively easy to use was the fact that it was quite forgiving with respect to focus and alignment, but one should also not forget that Prizmo is $9.99 and KNFB Reader was what, about $1,500? Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Avnish Chopra Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:37 PM To: ViPhone Subject: Decent OCR? . I have asked this question before. Is there no good OCR app? I mean some good app like the Text Scout or the KNFB Reader? Is it not high time that we IOS users got a decent one? I have tried at least a dozen applications but none of them are even half as good as the two mentioned earlier. Any suggestions as to how we can get reader onto IOS? Typed with Fleksy <http://fleksy.com/app> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. 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