Hi Les,
Yes, if indeed it is $100 for 3 years that is 3 times as expensive,
but I fully expect that the Seeing Eye app will also be leagues better
than Motion GPS Drive for a blind person because all Motion GPS Drive
gives you is turn-by-turn navigation. I would hazard a guess here and
say that most of us in most situations would simply prefer an app
which gives us the information we need for walking regular and
familiar routes like intersection announcement and so on. Of course if
I go somewhere where I haven’t been before or only go once every 2
years having turn-by-turn is good, but right now I use apps like
Ariadne, Blindsquare or Sendero LookAround a lot more than I use
navigon which I prefer over Motion GPS Drive.
Lastly, if they charge $100 for 3 years, that works out to 9.1 Cents a
day, even at $100 per year it is 27 Cents a day. Is it worth just over
a quarter a day if the app is really fantastic and if it basically
replaced all the other apps? To me it would be.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Les Kriegler
*Sent:* Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:25 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Cc:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: Decent OCR?
Hi Richard,
Actually, they are not on the same pricing structure. I use motion X
GPS Drive and it cost $10 per year. So even if they go at hundred
dollars for three years, that is pricier.d
Sent from my iPhone
On May 12, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Richard Turner
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi David,
I of course agree with most of what you said. However, to be fair
to Sendero, the announcement at CSUN said that it will probably
cost $100 for one to three years, they had not settled on exactly
how the pricing structure would work.
If it would be for three years, then you are in the same ball park
as something like Motion X gps for their turn-by-turn text to speech.
If it is $100 per year, I am not sure they will get enough takers
to make it worth while.
But, that is straying off the topic of this thread a bit.
As for the scanning, using the StandScan Pro gets better results
for me than the KNFB Reader on a regular basis.
When Prizmo 2 comes out this week, it will be interesting to see
how it compares to the last TextGrabber for speed as well as other
features. I have to say, at this point, I'm a TextGrabber convert.
Later,
Richard
Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
On May 12, 2013, at 8:15 AM, David Chittenden
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks for your reply. The OCR engine in TextGrabber and
Prizmo is newer and better than the OCR engine in KNFB Reader.
When these apps are used in conjunction with a product like
the StandScan Pro, their abilities really shine through.
Even the hardware is better with the iPhone 5 verses the Nokia
N86. Using my StandScan Pro and TextGrabber, I get OCR times
of just a few seconds with quality that is equivalent to a
desktop system.
I have heard rumours that KNFB Reading Technologies is
considering creating a KNFB Reader for the iPhone. Their
concern is whether people will pay several hundred dollars for
the product. By my calculations, ten StandScan Pro boxes would
come to $300, which I suspect would be the minimum asking
price from KNFB Reading. I personally would not pay such a
high price as it is not worth that kind of money to me
considering I get better results with significantly less
expensive equipment.
If you question my significant price expectations for KNFB
Reader on the iPhone, consider the precedence. Sendero Group,
the makers of GPS for the blind, announced at CSUN that the
GPS app which the Seeing Eye invested in the creation of will
probably sell for a subscription fee of $100 per year. With
this pricing structure, they are charging $25 more per year
than they charged for map updates with Mobile Geo.
I learned over a decade ago that it is almost always much more
difficult for an adaptive tech company to switch over to a
mainstream market. The fact is, there is no way consumers who
are not blind will pay anywhere near that kind of money for
OCR or GPS when the alternatives are all significantly less
than $100 without any sort of subscription models.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 12/05/2013, at 16:58, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello,
You’ll probably get a lot of replies and the 2 apps which
people will recommend the most will be Prizmo and Text
Grabber. You may also get a few recommendations for Text
Detective and SayText.
Apps like Prizmo or Text Grabber are probably every bit as
good recognizing stuff as KNFB Reader is. The main cause
for poor results are poorly taken pictures where either
the lighting is not good enough, the person who takes the
picture holds the phone too close, too far away or not
parallel to the text etc. People who use the Standscan
which is a simple cardboard box where the phone rests
above the page you want to scan and looks down through a
hole in the top pretty much all get excellent results that
often rival those of a flatbed scanner. But it’s just the
nature of the beast that a blind person can’t take a
perfect picture, make sure the page is not in shadow and
all that.
David from New Zealand was a KNFB Reader user before and
now uses Prizmo and Text Grabber and he has several times
posted reviews where he explains exactly why OCR on an
iPhone can be just as good or better. It is my
understanding that one of the features which made KNFB
Reader relatively easy to use was the fact that it was
quite forgiving with respect to focus and alignment, but
one should also not forget that Prizmo is $9.99 and KNFB
Reader was what, about $1,500?
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:*[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Avnish Chopra
*Sent:* Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:37 PM
*To:* ViPhone
*Subject:* Decent OCR?
.
I have asked this question before. Is there no good OCR
app? I mean some good app like the Text Scout or the KNFB
Reader?
Is it not high time that we IOS users got a decent one? I
have tried at least a dozen applications but none of them
are even half as good as the two mentioned earlier. Any
suggestions as to how we can get reader onto IOS?
Typed with Fleksy <http://fleksy.com/app>
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