Well, given the options that are available, I think that for driving, motion X GPS Drive more than suits my needs. I am looking for pedestrian route oriented program. Personally, I'm not crazy get the idea of subscription-based pricing especially if it's higher than I think it ought a be. We'll see what's Sendero does with this
Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Les, > > Yes, if indeed it is $100 for 3 years that is 3 times as expensive, but I > fully expect that the Seeing Eye app will also be leagues better than Motion > GPS Drive for a blind person because all Motion GPS Drive gives you is > turn-by-turn navigation. I would hazard a guess here and say that most of us > in most situations would simply prefer an app which gives us the information > we need for walking regular and familiar routes like intersection > announcement and so on. Of course if I go somewhere where I haven’t been > before or only go once every 2 years having turn-by-turn is good, but right > now I use apps like Ariadne, Blindsquare or Sendero LookAround a lot more > than I use navigon which I prefer over Motion GPS Drive. > > Lastly, if they charge $100 for 3 years, that works out to 9.1 Cents a day, > even at $100 per year it is 27 Cents a day. Is it worth just over a quarter a > day if the app is really fantastic and if it basically replaced all the other > apps? To me it would be. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Les Kriegler > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Decent OCR? > > Hi Richard, > > Actually, they are not on the same pricing structure. I use motion X GPS > Drive and it cost $10 per year. So even if they go at hundred dollars for > three years, that is pricier.d > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 12, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi David, > I of course agree with most of what you said. However, to be fair to > Sendero, the announcement at CSUN said that it will probably cost $100 for > one to three years, they had not settled on exactly how the pricing structure > would work. > If it would be for three years, then you are in the same ball park as > something like Motion X gps for their turn-by-turn text to speech. > If it is $100 per year, I am not sure they will get enough takers to make it > worth while. > > But, that is straying off the topic of this thread a bit. > > As for the scanning, using the StandScan Pro gets better results for me than > the KNFB Reader on a regular basis. > > When Prizmo 2 comes out this week, it will be interesting to see how it > compares to the last TextGrabber for speed as well as other features. I have > to say, at this point, I'm a TextGrabber convert. > > Later, > Richard > > > Richard > (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen) > > On May 12, 2013, at 8:15 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for your reply. The OCR engine in TextGrabber and Prizmo is newer and > better than the OCR engine in KNFB Reader. When these apps are used in > conjunction with a product like the StandScan Pro, their abilities really > shine through. > > Even the hardware is better with the iPhone 5 verses the Nokia N86. Using my > StandScan Pro and TextGrabber, I get OCR times of just a few seconds with > quality that is equivalent to a desktop system. > > I have heard rumours that KNFB Reading Technologies is considering creating a > KNFB Reader for the iPhone. Their concern is whether people will pay several > hundred dollars for the product. By my calculations, ten StandScan Pro boxes > would come to $300, which I suspect would be the minimum asking price from > KNFB Reading. I personally would not pay such a high price as it is not worth > that kind of money to me considering I get better results with significantly > less expensive equipment. > > If you question my significant price expectations for KNFB Reader on the > iPhone, consider the precedence. Sendero Group, the makers of GPS for the > blind, announced at CSUN that the GPS app which the Seeing Eye invested in > the creation of will probably sell for a subscription fee of $100 per year. > With this pricing structure, they are charging $25 more per year than they > charged for map updates with Mobile Geo. > > I learned over a decade ago that it is almost always much more difficult for > an adaptive tech company to switch over to a mainstream market. The fact is, > there is no way consumers who are not blind will pay anywhere near that kind > of money for OCR or GPS when the alternatives are all significantly less than > $100 without any sort of subscription models. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 12/05/2013, at 16:58, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello, > > You’ll probably get a lot of replies and the 2 apps which people will > recommend the most will be Prizmo and Text Grabber. You may also get a few > recommendations for Text Detective and SayText. > > Apps like Prizmo or Text Grabber are probably every bit as good recognizing > stuff as KNFB Reader is. The main cause for poor results are poorly taken > pictures where either the lighting is not good enough, the person who takes > the picture holds the phone too close, too far away or not parallel to the > text etc. People who use the Standscan which is a simple cardboard box where > the phone rests above the page you want to scan and looks down through a hole > in the top pretty much all get excellent results that often rival those of a > flatbed scanner. But it’s just the nature of the beast that a blind person > can’t take a perfect picture, make sure the page is not in shadow and all > that. > > David from New Zealand was a KNFB Reader user before and now uses Prizmo and > Text Grabber and he has several times posted reviews where he explains > exactly why OCR on an iPhone can be just as good or better. It is my > understanding that one of the features which made KNFB Reader relatively easy > to use was the fact that it was quite forgiving with respect to focus and > alignment, but one should also not forget that Prizmo is $9.99 and KNFB > Reader was what, about $1,500? > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Avnish Chopra > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:37 PM > To: ViPhone > Subject: Decent OCR? > > . > I have asked this question before. Is there no good OCR app? I mean some good > app like the Text Scout or the KNFB Reader? > Is it not high time that we IOS users got a decent one? I have tried at least > a dozen applications but none of them are even half as good as the two > mentioned earlier. 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