I used to work at IBM, and I heard this story as well. I could also offer up my own similar stories. Although I think I'm pretty savvy, I've had the light bulb go off a few times when someone mentioned something obvious and that got me thinking to some setting I had changed and then forgot about or something else that seemed pretty obvious in hindsight.

A few more thoughts on this whole issue.

first, if someone is pretty particular about the suggestions they get then maybe they have better options to get help than post a question to a list with over 1400 members. Anyone who has been on this list for any length of time knows that we have members from the novice to the experienced. It's also a list full of people who want to help out and support each other.

A summary of steps that were already tried would have also kept seemingly obvious and redundant suggestions from being made.

Just using the delete key seems like it would have been more appropriate than pointing out to the list how much "obvious" suggestions are resented.

BTW, I didn't pay attention to the solution but wasn't it something pretty obvious, like powering off the phone or using the volume up keys when the ear buds weren't plugged in?

On 09/30/2013 10:11 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
I feel the same as you, Christopher. I always welcome all suggestions, even and 
especially the obvious ones. When I get frustrated over a problem, I know that 
I can too easily forget one of the basic, obvious solutions.

Many years ago, I studied computer engineering for a couple years. I ultimately 
changed to another field, but I will never forget a story told to us by an 
engineering professor. He worked as a supervisor for a computer installation 
and repair company in the 70's. One day, a technician went out on a call. Half 
an hour later, the tech called and asked for assistance, so another tech was 
dispatched. When my former professor went out to see what was going on, four 
techs had been sent. He got there and found the large mainframe open, every 
board was out with meters showing proper functioning, and the technicians were 
very confused. As he looked behind the extremely large system, he noticed that 
a power cable was lying next to the socket rather than being plugged in. So, 
they plugged the system back in (the power had been unknowingly kicked out of 
the socket), and everything started working again properly.

I always go back to basics when I am in my correct mind. After all, it is 
usually one of the basics that we accidentally overlook.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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On 1 Oct 2013, at 13:33, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:

I'll try to do the same thing myself, although I may not remember who 
appreciates suggestions and who doesn't. For my part, when I ask a question on 
list, I'll try to mention what I've already tried, but please send me all of 
your suggestions. I've seen plenty of issues on this list solved by an obvious 
suggestion, and I've benefited from them myself. What may be obvious to 
everyone else, may be a setting I haven't stumbled across before or may be a 
subtle change in how IOS 7 works compared to IOS 6. David and all, I appreciate 
your help and suggestions.

On 09/30/2013 06:49 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
Hello Bryan,

the process of determining what may be wrong starts with checking all of the 
obvious possibilities. For me, just about every possibility is obvious. I am a 
trainer, and have been a beta tester and AT setup and trainer in the past. I 
have no idea what you consider obvious unless you state specifically what you 
have already tried.

That said, now that I know you will react negatively if I suggest something you 
consider obvious, I will reframe from taking any chances of giving you a wrong 
suggestion.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Oct 2013, at 10:44, "Bryan Schulz" <[email protected]> wrote:

hi,
i never said i didn't appreciate correct suggestions, just not the obvious ones 
such as mute, vo on, and hitting the volume up button.
Bryan Schulz


----- Original Message ----- From: "Regina Alvarado" <[email protected]>
To: "Viphone" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: sound problem


Holy cow, just found mute on! For the person who gave the person who did not 
appreciate it the thought, you may have just fixed my problem! Sending this to 
try! Thanks a bunch!



reggie and Allegra

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