I agree with Axil.  However, Jed must feel it is worthwhile pontificating like 
he does with the same old same old.

Bob Cook

From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:59 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR needs mortar and unity!

Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well then, your whole line of argument involving half filled pipes, ventilation 
holes, fans, people dying from heat exhaustion really is a waste of time for 
yourself and everybody else.

What are you talking about? Rossi claimed the device was producing 1 MW. He did 
not say it was producing 23 kW. Even if he had said that, we know that it 
produced no excess heat at all. We also know that Rossi made huge mistakes. And 
how do we know this? Because the pipe was half empty, and people were not dying 
from the heat. That's proof.

It is not a "line of argument" that the pipe was half full. It is a physical 

Why do you suddenly claim it is not proof or it does not matter? I think you 
need to get back to denying it the facts, and to claiming there is a magical 
endothermic reaction that swallows up the heat. Be consistent! You have made 
assertions that are contrary to the conservation of energy, and that any 
engineer or scientist on earth knows cannot be true. You believe these things 
only because Rossi said them. If anyone else had claimed there is magic 
endothermic process, you would instantly dismiss that.

Either you stick with what you Rossi said, or you admit he is wrong. Do not 
suddenly say that his claims don't matter because hypothetically it might have 
been 23 kW. He said it was 1 MW. His calorimetry showed that, because the pipe 
was half full, and for various other reasons.

- Jed

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