[Snip] Your frequent use of the term "vacuum fluctuations" adds to the confusion in your writing. The term "vacuum fluctuations" is typically reserved for the particle aspect of vacuum energy, the creation of virtual particle pairs, i.e. electron-positron, proton- neutron, strange pairs, etc. Virtual particle pairs pop into existence for an amount of time that does not violate Heisenberg. This has nothing to do with the ZPF exclusion from cavities.
[Reply] I disagree; I contend the change in the ratio of short to long vacuum flux is the principle difference inside the cavity vs outside. I realize flux are very transitory but they are the force that keeps the Puthoff atomic orbital from decaying and the same force that Casimir plates sum to produce the exclusion field. I only think of the ZPF in terms of its population and ratio of different wavelength vacuum flux but your comment makes me consider the "duty factor" when flux are present vs not present. What is your concept of ZPF if not flux population? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- [Snip] > My intuition is this method if possible would be very difficult as > opposed to exploiting the difference inside cavity vs outside > cavity in > the ratio of short to long vacuum flux. Uh..., exactly what do you think I exploited? Read: [Reply] ok, I get your point that the ratio is the source of mechanical motion closing the plates. From your other papers I suspect you also prefer fixed plates and moving gas but I agree a mechanical system could work. ---------------------------------------------------- [Snip] > Somehow Mills' is encouraging > this changed ratio of flux to disassociate gas atoms that nature > immediately repairs to set up a runaway Plasma oscillation. I don't know anything about this. I have not heard of the ZPF being used to disassociate gas atoms. Do you have a reference? [Reply] The disassociation of gas atoms is something I thought could be assumed, We have photons in the form of black light plasma coming from a "device" when hydrogen is present. The spectrum is wrong for hydrogen but since the device encourages the hydrino state the prediction for spectrum is unknown until the forces at play are finally established. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- [Snip] My impression of all this is the potentials available from the ZPF are just not very big at atomic dimensions, and are typically of the opposite kind, i.e. pressure causing, which sticks things together, like the van der Waals force. [Reply] Ok but this same "pressure" applied in a rigid cavity where the molecule formed already "stuck" deep in a channel treats the metal lattice like a membrane to allow the atoms to escape one at a time. This is why reports of excess heat so often occur where monatomic gas is evolved. ------------------------------------------------------------------- [Snip] An intramolecule repulsive force, Casimir pressure, only emerges at sub-ground state, AFAIK. It essentially *defines* ground state . The existence of Casimir pressure is one of the significant arguments that hydrinos must have short half-lives if they exist at all. [Reply] I agree almost totally, assuming we agree the term "Casimir pressure" defines the ratio of short to long flux then I can dispense with some of my refs to vacuum flux in favor of this term. I think this "Casimir pressure" has a broad spectrum of 137 fractional quantum states where the ground states appear smaller and 137 super states where the ground state appears larger. I don't know if we will ever directly measure a fractional quantum state outside of the cavity - removing the hydrino from the cavity releases the pressure and it translates back to hydrogen. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- [Snip] One way to generate excess heat by using Casimir cavity transversal would be to send molecules through the cavity that are stuck together by van der Waals forces. The cavity would reduce the ZPF and thus unstick the molecules. This would produce a tiny amount of energy per molecule pair unstuck, on the order of a small fraction of an eV, but that is a lot of heat if the flow can be made large enough. This is not ionization, nor plasma creation, but it is a possibly workable concept for excess heat production. It also would verify the ZPF experimentally. [Reply] Yes, it sounds workable but the amount of gas circulation suggests this is not as efficient as the Mill's plasma. I can't prove it but I really think the Mill's plasma is from reforming molecules or compounds that are disassociated by vacuum flux. Regards Fran

