This is a misrepresentation, Eric. I have not disparaged McKubre's connection to Papp in any way - but merely provided a framework to better understand the recent history of this device and his past involvement with some of the other players, which he would never deny.
Instead, I have disparaged the sloppy interpretation of what he said by others, including yourself. Note that MM never says that he has witnessed this machine in self-powered mode. He says only that so-and-so told him one thing, which was corroborated by someone else, which was further corroborated by another third party. This is all circumstantial anecdote. You did not carefully listen to what he said. I doubt if he would deny his connection to Klostermann and in any event, it is not "disparagement". Instead, you jump to the conclusion that this string of linked anecdotes constitutes some kind of real data or real endorsement, instead of merely being 'encouragement' to Rohner. No one has a problem with an expert like MM, with a long history in the field, encouraging a friend. It is someone else's misleading interpretation of that as a real factual "endorsement" of the present validity of the gain in the technology, to a wider audience (as opposed to its potential "promise") which is the problem. ... 'nuf said. Jones -----Original Message----- From: Eric Walker > to be frank - this whole episode is really becoming a joke and a > distraction to new technology that does work. To be frank, I think you've gotten yourself in the difficult position of disparaging McKubre's connection to all of this. His role as a capable LENR researcher has been invaluable in its maintaining a degree of respectability. He has now endorsed Bob Rohner's device, however tentatively. You're calling this endorsement the basis of a joke and a distraction. I personally would not want to find myself under pressure to defend this position. Eric

