This is a misrepresentation, Eric.

I have not disparaged McKubre's connection to Papp in any way - but merely
provided a framework to better understand the recent history of this device
and his past involvement with some of the other players, which he would
never deny. 

Instead, I have disparaged the sloppy interpretation of what he said by
others, including yourself. 

Note that MM never says that he has witnessed this machine in self-powered
mode. He says only that so-and-so told him one thing, which was corroborated
by someone else, which was further corroborated by another third party. This
is all circumstantial anecdote. You did not carefully listen to what he
said. I doubt if he would deny his connection to Klostermann and in any
event, it is not "disparagement".

Instead, you jump to the conclusion that this string of linked anecdotes
constitutes some kind of real data or real endorsement, instead of merely
being 'encouragement' to Rohner. No one has a problem with an expert like
MM, with a long history in the field, encouraging a friend. 

It is someone else's misleading interpretation of that as a real factual
"endorsement" of the present validity of the gain in the technology, to a
wider audience (as opposed to its potential "promise") which is the problem.

... 'nuf said.

Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Walker 
 
>  to be frank - this whole episode is really becoming a joke and a
> distraction to new technology that does work.

To be frank, I think you've gotten yourself in the difficult position of
disparaging McKubre's connection to all of this.  His role as a capable LENR
researcher has been invaluable in its maintaining a degree of
respectability.  He has now endorsed Bob Rohner's device, however
tentatively.  You're calling this endorsement the basis of a joke and a
distraction.  I personally would not want to find myself under pressure to
defend this position.
 

Eric


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