I like Penrose. IMO he is the most philosophically sophosticated
physicist in academia today. I wonder ...did Penrose ever say anthing
about CF?

Harry

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
<gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I love Roger Penrose great thinker. Hameroff is too out there. I think
> Penrose has dissociated from Hameroff because he went too far.
> Orch-OR is not the best theory of consciousness. It has been debunked in
> many different ways.
> Giovanni
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:37 AM, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If Neurons can sense Neutrinos it makes sense to me we could "synch up"
>>
>> Stewart
>> darkmattersalot.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of
>>> consciousness to date.  It's called Orchestrated Objective Reduction,
>>> or Orch-OR.  The two actually developed the idea separately, Sir
>>> Penrose being a physicist and Hameroff being a physician who
>>> specialized in anesthesia and cancer research.  Roger was seeking a
>>> model of the brain that did not require computation.  Hameroff wanted
>>> to know how anesthesia worked and where the conscious went when under.
>>>  Penrose theorizes that spacetime is granular at the size of the
>>> Planck length and that quantum superposition is linked to the
>>> curvature.  Orchestrated Reduction is the collapse of the
>>> superposition.
>>>
>>> Hameroff brought in the neuron microtubles which provide the
>>> structure.  He sees a synchronous oscillation in neural MT can
>>> influence other neurons.  Together they see these electrons as a sea
>>> embedded in the geometry of spacetime.
>>>
>>> Needless to say, they have many critics.  :-)
>>>
>>
>

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