You've made my point better than I. For when you are studying the ones and
zeros wherever they may persist, you are in fact studying the software. The
ones and zeros are not hardware, they're software.
Much like the soul. We can spend a hundred lifetimes studying neuron chemical
reactions, electrical impulses, cellular structure of brain cells and other
psychological theories and mumbo-jumbo; we will never understand how Human
consciousness works. To understand the human soul, one needs to understand its
creator. Much like studying the software requires an understanding of
Microsoft Software Engineer's design methods and techniques, in fact, a
understanding of the man himself.
Tell me, can you reverse engineer the entire windows operating system from the
ones and zeros of machine code? Doesn't understanding windows require
understanding of its design at a higher level? not at the machine code level?
possibly by interviewing the designer and studying his work? Why would one
think he can understand the human soul by studying the individual ones and
zeros of the neurons?
You see, this issue goes deeper than just discussions about the human soul.
This issue involves our humanistic prederilection to avoid acknowledging the
creator. We try our best to understand ourselves without studying the human
blueprint. Such efforts are always doom to fail, much like the fallacies of
Darwinian Evolution.
Jojo
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Ellul
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
If I studied close enough the inside of a computer that has MS Windows
installed on it, without ever switching it on, I can still see and understand
the expected behaviour. The software program is persisted as ones and zeros on
a memory device.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Any psychological/psychiatric/philosophical attempt to understand the soul
is doom to failure from the onset.
Let says you're a hardware/ASIC/Electronics/IC engineer who designed the
Pentuim chip. Without understanding of the software, can you discern the
operation of a PC from your understanding of the hardware/Chips/IC/CPU/GPU/etc?
At best, you understanding would be severely incomplete and faulty. Software
is the intangible thing that controls the behavior of the computer. Software
controls the hardware.
On the same token, experts in
Psychology/Psychiatry/Philosophy/Sociology/Humanism/etc, can never hope to
completely understand the Human Soul. It is that intangible entity - the soul,
that controls the hardware consisting of your brain cells/neurons, etc. The
Software soul is what needs to be understood for us to understand the behavior
of man. You need to study the soul, not the brain. The brain is simply a
mechanism that the soul controls much like the CPU chip is the mechanism that
MS Windows controls. The analogy is apt and accurate.
Hence, one is wasting their time trying to study all the ideas of these
philosophers/psychologists/psychiatrists/etc. They are at best severely
incomplete, at worst gravely misleading.
If you want to understand the spiritual soul, go to the one who wrote the
software soul. Study his book - the Bible to have a better understanding of
human behavior.
Jojo
----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Blanton" <hohlr...@gmail.com>
To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The Quantum Soul?
I think Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff have the best explanation of
consciousness to date. It's called Orchestrated Objective Reduction,
or Orch-OR. The two actually developed the idea separately, Sir
Penrose being a physicist and Hameroff being a physician who
specialized in anesthesia and cancer research. Roger was seeking a
model of the brain that did not require computation. Hameroff wanted
to know how anesthesia worked and where the conscious went when under.
Penrose theorizes that spacetime is granular at the size of the
Planck length and that quantum superposition is linked to the
curvature. Orchestrated Reduction is the collapse of the
superposition.
Hameroff brought in the neuron microtubles which provide the
structure. He sees a synchronous oscillation in neural MT can
influence other neurons. Together they see these electrons as a sea
embedded in the geometry of spacetime.
Needless to say, they have many critics. :-)
--
Patrick
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