Jed, he is just stating that he believes that the COE is valid.  So far I have 
not seen any systems that break this conservation law as long as you include 
the energy associated with mass conversion.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 26, 2013 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Waltzing Hammers


 <[email protected]> wrote:




This isn't ‘perpetual motion machine’.   Its not breaking the law of 
conversation of energy.   If it works, its getting energy from somewhere.




How do you know that?


Where might the energy be coming from? Until you find the source I do not think 
you can make this assertion.


- Jed





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