I had not intended to get involved with this field, but stumbled into it when I became aware of some experimental results that did not fit into the conventional picture. Once I dipped my toe into the water I quickly came to realise how much information was available, some of which did seem to provide a pointer that might explain what had been seen. I have hypothesies on this and other scientific things, some of which I have been working on for over 30 years, but it is my custom when explaining them to other people to finish with "But I may be wrong". I hope this means that I can give up opinions if circumstances dictate.

I find it also useful to be able to say "I understand your hypothesis, and it may be right (indeed it may well have advantages), but for the moment science is probably best served if you continue with your hypothesis and I with mine, and hopefully experimental evidence suggested by our two hypothesies will be such that we find out who was right before we die".

Nigel

On 03/02/2014 16:49, Edmund Storms wrote:
Nigel, far more information is available than most people realize. My present book has 750 citations to essential information. How many people do you think have read these papers? My data base contains 4700 papers, which is more than available on LENR.org

I'm trying to apply the fewest number of assumptions as possible to all observed behavior. I find that this is possible without violating any laws of nature and without introducing novel mechanisms. I can predict a whole range of behavior that can be looked for to test the model. Some of this behavior has been seen and is unexplained and some would be expected but ignored. The phenomenon has only a few novel features that I have identified. The rest can be explained by accepted laws of nature. Unfortunately, this requires a book length justification because acceptance requires a person to give up strongly held opinions.

Ed Storms
On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Nigel Dyer wrote:

I don't feel that we have anything like enough evidence to say definitively whether there is one, or more than one, underlying mechanism. It seems likely that at least some of the different sets of experimental results will have a common underlying mechanism, and it is well worth trying to make progress by looking for common factors that might point to possible underlying mechanisms. But there may well be outliers that dont fit in, which may, or may not indicate that it is hopelessly wrong, or there might be multiple mechanisms However a hypothesis should suggests some novel experiments (ie is to a degree testable and can make predictions) which, as has already been said, is the whole point of a hypothesis. If it does not then it is of no great help.

I feel that to state categorically at the moment that there are X underlying mechanisms is akin to stating that you can fit X angels on a pinhead.

Nigel

On 03/02/2014 15:19, Jones Beene wrote:

*From:*Axil Axil

The cold fusion reaction must be the same for all systems if we look deep enough.

That is absurd.

There is not the least bit of evidence for that proposition. In fact, the evidence points to perhaps a dozen energetic reactions of hydrogen when loaded into condensed matter.




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