On Feb 8, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Jones Beene wrote:



From: Edmund Storms

Bob, we are presented with a complex puzzle. A solution requires testing possibilities against what is observed. A solution is made difficult if mechanisms are proposed that cannot be tested. For example, spin coupling can not be tested against what is known and, in addition, it is not found to involve the magnitude of energy involved. The human mind can imagine an infinite number of possibilities. Some way must be used to limit these possibilities.

But Ed – it is far worse to attempt to rationalize a mechanism which we know for sure cannot work, like P+P fusion to deuterium.

But Jones, we do not know this can not work. You are taking the conventional approach that eventually proves that LENR is impossible. I'm proposing a new approach must be used. Suggesting obscure and untestable processes such as spin coupling does not help. The data can be explained without using these processes. Consequently, why insist they be used. Does nature's behavior not have the last word?

We know that tritium is made when D and H are present and this can only result from p-e-d fusion. Is it unreasonable to assume p-e-p also occurs? Nevertheless, this proposal shows where to look for the evidence. I'm waiting for someone to find the d and the subsequent tritium when H+Ni is used. Absence of data is not absent of proof, as many people point out including yourself.

What would you expect to find if spin coupling were the process?

Ed Storms

Essentially this explanation is dead-in-the-water on two fronts – the lack of tritium, which must be there if the reaction can fuse two protons, and the lack of 1+ MeV quanta.

Some kind of spin coupling is far preferable to a proposed reaction which cannot happen.

Jones





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