On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

The risk/reward situation is such that 99% or four nines for leakage is not
> nearly good enough. One cannot simply propose the leap that goes all the
> way from partial fractionation to complete blockage.
>

That is precisely what is being proposed.  Whether this suggestion is
amenable to you is a different question.  But such 100 percent efficiency
in fractionation is what is implied in the PdD research.  You take
deuterium, you place it with a palladium system using electrolysis or gas
pressure, and in important experiments you get both excess heat and 4He
above background at an order of magnitude correlation with the heat.  E.g.,
on the order of 24 MeV heat leaving the system above what has been put in
in terms of input energy per 4He observed.  Despite what some journalists
might want to believe, that suggests exactly d+d → 4He + Q, with no gamma,
brought about through one mechanism or another, direct or indirect.  Unless
the 4He/heat experiments are to be set aside or dramatically reinterpreted,
there's no escaping that Q.  The question is what happens to it.

Do not overlook that fact that at the intense level of thermal output of
> the Rossi reactor, even a leakage of one part per billion would be fatal to
> Rossi or anyone else.
>

Yes -- which is precisely why a mechanism that is thought to intercept any
gammas in flight is untenable.  Not mentioned is the possibility that the
conditions under which such fractionation occurs are a requirement for cold
fusion to even happen.  This does not seem like too much of a stretch of
the imagination.

There is no indication that had any success at all. Gammas are very
> penetrating, and that makes it baffling tome - as to how this fractionation
> thing has gotten any momentum at all.
>

It's the PdD research and the 4He/heat correlation.  You're overlooking
this or ignoring it, or assuming as one might that PdD and NiH have nothing
in common.  But if we accept what the correlation implies, and we are
willing to draw weak conclusions from PdD to NiH, as I would venture the
large majority of folks are, then it is not a long-shot to assume that
something analogous, although perhaps different in components, is also
occurring in NiH.  Once it's been established that a Q of 24 MeV can be
fractionated without penetrating radiation in *some* context, it is not a
leap of faith to conclude that similar behavior can be sought in other
contexts.

Eric

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