It only takes one good experiment to disprove a generalization. Piantelli, like the great scientist that he is has done good work on the nature of the LENR reaction.
In the Piantelli reactor, it is certain that nickel transmutation to copper is just one of many possible reactions that occur in the Ni/H reaction. Let us focus on this one particular copper based reaction for a moment. Some important insight can be gleaned from the Piantelli cloud chamber experiment about some of the quantum mechanics of the LENR transmutation of nickel into copper. While the Piantilli reactor is in operation, no large photons or particle are seen. But in this cloud chamber experiment, Piantelli removes one of his nickel rods from his reactor and places into in a cloud chamber. This move of the bar into the chamber must have had to take an extended period of time assuming the reactor is cooled down enough to be disassembled. This means that the release of 6 MeV of LENR reaction energy derived from the binding force of nickel after it is transmuted into copper of a high energy proton takes a macroscopic amount of time: taking from minutes to hours. What supports this delay? This long delay in the relaxation of the excited nickel nucleus means that after the double proton pair (proton dimer) has entered into the nickel nucleus, the nickel retains its original atomic number, that is, it is still nickel; it remains nickel even though there is many additional protons resident inside the nickel nucleus. Let us consider Quantum superposition. Quantum superposition is a fundamental principle of quantum mechanics. It holds that a physical system -- such as a nucleus--can exist partly in all its particular, theoretically possible states (or, configuration of its properties) simultaneously; but, when measured, it gives a result corresponding to only one of the possible configurations (as described in interpretation of quantum mechanics). The excited nickel nucleus is both nickel and copper at the same time. The principle of quantum superposition states that if a physical system: i.e. an arrangement of subatomic particles or fields may be in some configuration and if the system could also be in another configuration, then it is in a state which is a superposition of the two, where the probability of each configuration that is in the superposition is specified by a complex number. Erwin Schrödinger explained this concept through his famous thought experiment "Schrödinger's cat" The thought experiment is also often featured in theoretical discussions of the interpretation of quantum mechanics. In the course of developing this experiment, Schrödinger coined the term Verschränkung (entanglement). What would usually happen is that a 6 MeV photon would exit the nickel to copper nucleus. But when the LENR reaction cools, standard rules of physics take effect again. Because the proton is delayed in its exit from the nickel nucleus, this proves that an entangled proton pair enters into this nucleus because just like in the thought experiment "Schrödinger's cat" the proton pair infects the larger system: this nickel nucleus with proton entanglement. Only when energy is release does the superposition of the nuclear state resolve into decoherence. Decoherence always results from energy release from the nucleus. What a LENR theory must explain is what quantum mechanical conditions can produce an entangled proton dimer. There has to be an explanation of proton cooper pair formation. Cluster fusion of multiple nuclei happen and because the LENR positive feedback mechanism has been disabled when the Nickel bar is removed from the reactor( it cools). And the thermalization of gammas no longer occurs. On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > Piantelli has seen a 6 MeV proton in a cloud chamber. > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:34 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ed, the energy can be released in the form of a particle, such as an >> alpha, and a gamma ray. Energy and momentum can be conserved in that >> manner. The bulk of the energy will be given to the gamma ray due to the >> large difference in masses. Think of a rifle firing a bullet. Most of >> the energy ends up in the bullet while linear momentum is conserved. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Edmund Storms <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Cc: Edmund Storms <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:09 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper" >> >> Bob, we are discussing a basic and fundamental concept. The energy >> generated when mass-energy is released requires emission of at least two >> particles for the energy to be dissipated. I know of no example in nature >> where this requirement does not operate when energy is released. If energy >> is not released immediately, but is retained in the nucleus, this nucleus >> is found to be unstable and will eventually release energy over a period of >> time by emission of a particle, including a photon. This is how nature is >> found to behave. Imagining otherwise is not useful unless you have observed >> support for the idea. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Bob Cook wrote: >> >> Ed-- >> >> You said: >> >> >>Yes, that is what I'm saying. LENR can not result in a single alpha >> because two particles are required to conserve momentum when energy is >> released. << >> >> I note that, if there is no linear momentum to start, two particles would >> not be required. I do not believe conservation of angular momentum >> requires two particles either. And keep in mind that potential energy may >> be changed to the energy of angular momentum/spin energy in LENR. >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Edmund Storms <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Cc:* Edmund Storms <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2014 12:06 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper" >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Jones Beene wrote: >> >> From: Edmund Storms >> >> Jones, bremsstrahlung or "slowing down radiation" is not >> produced by photons. >> >> Who said it was? >> >> >> I'm not answering a claim. I'm simply giving information. You brought >> up photons by talking about gamma emissions, which are photons. You then >> added the production of bremsstrahlung, which I simply pointed out is >> not produced by gamma. >> >> You brought up photons. I asked for adequate documentation >> of intense photon emission - and am still waiting. >> >> >> I sent a list of references. If you want a copy of a particular paper to >> read, ask and I will send what I have. Unfortunately, I can not send using >> Vortex and I can not send all the papers. >> >> >> This is generated by energetic electrons or particles such >> as alpha emission. LENR produces neither kind of radiation. >> >> What? Are you now saying that the helium you claim to see in Pd-D does not >> begin as an alpha particles? >> >> >> Yes, that is what I'm saying. LENR can not result in a single alpha >> because two particles are required to conserve momentum when energy is >> released. >> >> >> Therefore, bremsstrahlung is not an issue because all the >> mass-energy is dissipated as photons. >> >> There is no proof of this. >> >> >> The proof is in the behavior. This is the only conclusion consistent >> with all behavior. Unfortunately, a book is required to present this >> information in a form and as complete as you require. I'm attempting to do >> this. Please be patient. >> >> >> The only question is how this happens. I have proposed a >> mechanism. The only issue is whether this mechanism is plausible and >> consistent will all the other observations. >> >> It is not plausible if you cannot document photons sufficient to account >> for >> the heat. >> >> >> I agree, the measurement of heat and radiation have not been done in a >> way to show a quantitative correlation. However, I suggest you apply this >> standard to the other explanations as well. If you do, I think you will >> have to agree that no explanation meeting this requirements presently >> exists, including your own. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> >> Where is the documentation? >> >> Jones >> >> >> <winmail.dat> >> >> >> >> >> >

