Ed, the energy can be released in the form of a particle, such as an alpha, and a gamma ray. Energy and momentum can be conserved in that manner. The bulk of the energy will be given to the gamma ray due to the large difference in masses. Think of a rifle firing a bullet. Most of the energy ends up in the bullet while linear momentum is conserved.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Cc: Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> Sent: Wed, Mar 5, 2014 4:09 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper" Bob, we are discussing a basic and fundamental concept. The energy generated when mass-energy is released requires emission of at least two particles for the energy to be dissipated. I know of no example in nature where this requirement does not operate when energy is released. If energy is not released immediately, but is retained in the nucleus, this nucleus is found to be unstable and will eventually release energy over a period of time by emission of a particle, including a photon. This is how nature is found to behave. Imagining otherwise is not useful unless you have observed support for the idea. Ed Storms On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Bob Cook wrote: Ed-- You said: >>Yes, that is what I'm saying. LENR can not result in a single alpha because >>two particles are required to conserve momentum when energy is released. << I note that, if there is no linear momentum to start, two particles would not be required. I do not believe conservation of angular momentum requires two particles either. And keep in mind that potential energy may be changed to the energy of angular momentum/spin energy in LENR. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper" On Mar 5, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Jones Beene wrote: From: Edmund Storms Jones, bremsstrahlung or "slowing down radiation" is not produced by photons. Who said it was? I'm not answering a claim. I'm simply giving information. You brought up photons by talking about gamma emissions, which are photons. You then added the production of bremsstrahlung, which I simply pointed out is not produced by gamma. You brought up photons. I asked for adequate documentation of intense photon emission - and am still waiting. I sent a list of references. If you want a copy of a particular paper to read, ask and I will send what I have. Unfortunately, I can not send using Vortex and I can not send all the papers. This is generated by energetic electrons or particles such as alpha emission. LENR produces neither kind of radiation. What? Are you now saying that the helium you claim to see in Pd-D does not begin as an alpha particles? Yes, that is what I'm saying. LENR can not result in a single alpha because two particles are required to conserve momentum when energy is released. Therefore, bremsstrahlung is not an issue because all the mass-energy is dissipated as photons. There is no proof of this. The proof is in the behavior. This is the only conclusion consistent with all behavior. Unfortunately, a book is required to present this information in a form and as complete as you require. I'm attempting to do this. Please be patient. The only question is how this happens. I have proposed a mechanism. The only issue is whether this mechanism is plausible and consistent will all the other observations. It is not plausible if you cannot document photons sufficient to account for the heat. I agree, the measurement of heat and radiation have not been done in a way to show a quantitative correlation. However, I suggest you apply this standard to the other explanations as well. If you do, I think you will have to agree that no explanation meeting this requirements presently exists, including your own. Ed Storms Where is the documentation? Jones <winmail.dat>
