Jim,

maybe there's another spring creek out there that even you don't know about.

I've got a couple of creeks and rivers in the Cascades I'm glad that they
don't get any more pressure.  One I discovered in 1977 and I don't think
I've shared that information with more than a dozen people since.

I do seriously think that you're missing one of the spring creeks.

Just curious, but which town do you live in?

Kent, now you see why I only asked my question for discussion as I was a
little possessive of certain information.

My thoughts ran along the line of "why should I care what someone else does
that I don't approve of, provided it's not illegal."  Sharing information,
even if it's done publicly isn't illegal.  I really approve of it if it's
someone else giving me tips to a hot, undiscovered spot.

It's really easy to get that type of information on BC lakes as there's so
many up there and they don't get crowded unless a FF club has a fish-in on
it.  WA lakes aren't that way as there's not much info shared on hot lakes.

Bill

> ----------
> From:         Jim Speaker[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:         Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:40 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: new thread:   Revealing secrets
> 
> Hey Bill.
> 
> Good question... and I agree that you could call the spot Eastern rather
> than Central.  I guess I never think I'm in Eastern until I get as far as
> Cheney, which I know is wrong.  I just lived in Spokane 10 years and think
> of everything between Cheney and the Cascades central WA.
> 
> I care about people sharing info on these little creeks for a number of
> reasons.  The publicly acccessible areas are generally few, and many of
> the
> landowners that I ask permission from seem to be a little hesitant.  I
> worry
> that too many people might start bugging folks out there, that some may
> not
> follow my "pack out more than I packed in" policy, etc.  I have a strong
> ethic re how I treat the land that I fish on and am concerned that
> widespread public knowledge of these creeks, and/or specific stretches of
> creek, and/or specific holes could be damaging to future access.  Frankly,
> I
> also worry that I might drive all that way and find someone fishing "my
> spot".  I know that might sound selfish, and it is, but it's a long drive
> and the areas I like to fish aren't big enough for a mess of fishermen -
> the
> wild fish don't just sit there like they do at Rocky Ford when there's a
> line of people along the bank - if they see you they're GONE.  I also know
> for a fact that there are way more creeks out there with quality fishing
> that I am yet to explore, and that few people fish... and exploring is
> half
> the fun.  It would be like going on a rock climb and having the guide say,
> "grab that hold right there, okay, now your foot on that edge..." - it
> would
> ruin the fun of climbing the route since routefinding is part of the
> puzzle.
> 
> There you go - that's my reasoning on the subject.
> 
> -tight lines (and happy exploring)-
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warner, Paul W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:22 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: new thread: Revealing secrets
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Got a question for you and consider this an academic one as I'm not trying
> to start a peeing match.
> 
> Why should you care if someone wants to share info on eastern/central WA
> spring creeks?  I know of three of them that do real well and suspect that
> the one mentioned on the front cover of Fly Fisherman isn't a "central WA"
> spring creek.  My guess... it's further east.  No clues more than that.
> 
> Also, why should someone else care if you choose to publicly share fishing
> info... or also.... not share fishing info.?
> 
> One of my secret lakes got revealed on this bb.  I was guilty of the same
> act as you as I sent the guy private email and asked him why he did it.
> His
> reply was he thought that lake was common knowledge.
> 
> This might end up stirring up some discussion, but let's keep it from
> getting heated.
> 
> Bill Warner
> 
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       Jim Speaker[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:       Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:59 PM
> > To:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    Where's everyone going this weekend?
> >
> > Good topic Mike!  (I've been desperate for a topic all day)
> >
> > I'm going to check out a small lake and its feeder spring creek in
> central
> > WA... I've never been to this one so, no, it's not the one I got all
> upset
> > about a while back ;-)  This will be an explorative venture in search of
> > bows and browns - I understand there's also bass, crappy and carp
> > potential
> > in the area.  I may also hop over to Rocky Ford if I don't like the area
> > I'm
> > scoping out (was that a hint? okay, just a little one)
> >
> > Hey Mike:  Be sure to hit the fast water right below the diversion dam
> > with
> > #16 olive scuds bumping bottom... he'll be into more fish than he can
> > shake
> > a stick at!  Those fast water fish also seem to love #14 red san juan
> > worms
> > during the winter.  Picked up a 25" bow down there last winter/early
> > spring
> > on a san juan, and my buddy Jeff and I have had 40+ fish days down there
> > with those flies.
> >
> > -tight lines-
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:47 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Is the list down? Test message...
> >
> >
> > Well since none of us have anything to report about where we have been
> how
> > about reports on where you are going to go?
> >
> > I am headed out to take a friend fishing at Rocky Ford on Friday.  He
> has
> > been wanting to learn to fly fish for years and even though I told him
> > about
> > the snobby nature of the RF fish he still wants to submit himself to
> that
> > kind of punishment.  I tried to convince him that July on the St. Joe
> > would
> > a lot more fun.  Oh well, I haven't seen him in a couple of years so
> that
> > will make the trip worth it right there.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> 
> 

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