Paul, I think you misunderstood part of my message. I know there are probably MANY spring creeks that offer good fishing that I just haven't discovered yet (thus my explorative trip this weekend). I'm sure that I don't know everything about the creeks out there. I continue to put miles on my truck and burn hours looking, asking questions of locals and landowners, peering over bridge crossings, seining, wetting my line (with or without success), and scribbling notes in my gazeteer...
I live in Maple Valley, just south of 4 Corners. -tight lines- Jim -----Original Message----- From: Warner, Paul W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:03 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: new thread: Revealing secrets Jim, maybe there's another spring creek out there that even you don't know about. I've got a couple of creeks and rivers in the Cascades I'm glad that they don't get any more pressure. One I discovered in 1977 and I don't think I've shared that information with more than a dozen people since. I do seriously think that you're missing one of the spring creeks. Just curious, but which town do you live in? Kent, now you see why I only asked my question for discussion as I was a little possessive of certain information. My thoughts ran along the line of "why should I care what someone else does that I don't approve of, provided it's not illegal." Sharing information, even if it's done publicly isn't illegal. I really approve of it if it's someone else giving me tips to a hot, undiscovered spot. It's really easy to get that type of information on BC lakes as there's so many up there and they don't get crowded unless a FF club has a fish-in on it. WA lakes aren't that way as there's not much info shared on hot lakes. Bill > ---------- > From: Jim Speaker[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: new thread: Revealing secrets > > Hey Bill. > > Good question... and I agree that you could call the spot Eastern rather > than Central. I guess I never think I'm in Eastern until I get as far as > Cheney, which I know is wrong. I just lived in Spokane 10 years and think > of everything between Cheney and the Cascades central WA. > > I care about people sharing info on these little creeks for a number of > reasons. The publicly acccessible areas are generally few, and many of > the > landowners that I ask permission from seem to be a little hesitant. I > worry > that too many people might start bugging folks out there, that some may > not > follow my "pack out more than I packed in" policy, etc. I have a strong > ethic re how I treat the land that I fish on and am concerned that > widespread public knowledge of these creeks, and/or specific stretches of > creek, and/or specific holes could be damaging to future access. Frankly, > I > also worry that I might drive all that way and find someone fishing "my > spot". I know that might sound selfish, and it is, but it's a long drive > and the areas I like to fish aren't big enough for a mess of fishermen - > the > wild fish don't just sit there like they do at Rocky Ford when there's a > line of people along the bank - if they see you they're GONE. I also know > for a fact that there are way more creeks out there with quality fishing > that I am yet to explore, and that few people fish... and exploring is > half > the fun. It would be like going on a rock climb and having the guide say, > "grab that hold right there, okay, now your foot on that edge..." - it > would > ruin the fun of climbing the route since routefinding is part of the > puzzle. > > There you go - that's my reasoning on the subject. > > -tight lines (and happy exploring)- > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Warner, Paul W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:22 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: new thread: Revealing secrets > > > Jim, > > Got a question for you and consider this an academic one as I'm not trying > to start a peeing match. > > Why should you care if someone wants to share info on eastern/central WA > spring creeks? I know of three of them that do real well and suspect that > the one mentioned on the front cover of Fly Fisherman isn't a "central WA" > spring creek. My guess... it's further east. No clues more than that. > > Also, why should someone else care if you choose to publicly share fishing > info... or also.... not share fishing info.? > > One of my secret lakes got revealed on this bb. I was guilty of the same > act as you as I sent the guy private email and asked him why he did it. > His > reply was he thought that lake was common knowledge. > > This might end up stirring up some discussion, but let's keep it from > getting heated. > > Bill Warner > > > > ---------- > > From: Jim Speaker[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:59 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Where's everyone going this weekend? > > > > Good topic Mike! (I've been desperate for a topic all day) > > > > I'm going to check out a small lake and its feeder spring creek in > central > > WA... I've never been to this one so, no, it's not the one I got all > upset > > about a while back ;-) This will be an explorative venture in search of > > bows and browns - I understand there's also bass, crappy and carp > > potential > > in the area. I may also hop over to Rocky Ford if I don't like the area > > I'm > > scoping out (was that a hint? okay, just a little one) > > > > Hey Mike: Be sure to hit the fast water right below the diversion dam > > with > > #16 olive scuds bumping bottom... he'll be into more fish than he can > > shake > > a stick at! Those fast water fish also seem to love #14 red san juan > > worms > > during the winter. Picked up a 25" bow down there last winter/early > > spring > > on a san juan, and my buddy Jeff and I have had 40+ fish days down there > > with those flies. > > > > -tight lines- > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:47 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Is the list down? Test message... > > > > > > Well since none of us have anything to report about where we have been > how > > about reports on where you are going to go? > > > > I am headed out to take a friend fishing at Rocky Ford on Friday. He > has > > been wanting to learn to fly fish for years and even though I told him > > about > > the snobby nature of the RF fish he still wants to submit himself to > that > > kind of punishment. I tried to convince him that July on the St. Joe > > would > > a lot more fun. Oh well, I haven't seen him in a couple of years so > that > > will make the trip worth it right there. > > > > Mike > > > > > >
