Jim, Well said! It has been my observation that when you find special places by exploring on your own instead of by someone drawing you a map that you tend to value the spot more. Also, I find that when I am bushwacking to places and find another fisherman already there I make an extra point to be more courteous and leave a larger space between us. Sometimes this involves moving on completely in small areas. I have noticed that often people do the same for me when I am the one there first. The crowded places are crowded because they are easy; access, large numbers of fish etc. The quiet places usually involve work in finding them, and I like to think that when someone else has found one of "my spots" they put some work into finding it too. Having said that, as soon as the water levels drop I am going out with the crowds to the Sky to chase some Steelhead. Tight Lines Tom
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Speaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: new thread: Revealing secrets Hey Bill. Good question... and I agree that you could call the spot Eastern rather than Central. I guess I never think I'm in Eastern until I get as far as Cheney, which I know is wrong. I just lived in Spokane 10 years and think of everything between Cheney and the Cascades central WA. I care about people sharing info on these little creeks for a number of reasons. The publicly acccessible areas are generally few, and many of the landowners that I ask permission from seem to be a little hesitant. I worry that too many people might start bugging folks out there, that some may not follow my "pack out more than I packed in" policy, etc. I have a strong ethic re how I treat the land that I fish on and am concerned that widespread public knowledge of these creeks, and/or specific stretches of creek, and/or specific holes could be damaging to future access. Frankly, I also worry that I might drive all that way and find someone fishing "my spot". I know that might sound selfish, and it is, but it's a long drive and the areas I like to fish aren't big enough for a mess of fishermen - the wild fish don't just sit there like they do at Rocky Ford when there's a line of people along the bank - if they see you they're GONE. I also know for a fact that there are way more creeks out there with quality fishing that I am yet to explore, and that few people fish... and exploring is half the fun. It would be like going on a rock climb and having the guide say, "grab that hold right there, okay, now your foot on that edge..." - it would ruin the fun of climbing the route since routefinding is part of the puzzle. There you go - that's my reasoning on the subject. -tight lines (and happy exploring)- Jim -----Original Message----- From: Warner, Paul W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 8:22 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: new thread: Revealing secrets Jim, Got a question for you and consider this an academic one as I'm not trying to start a peeing match. Why should you care if someone wants to share info on eastern/central WA spring creeks? I know of three of them that do real well and suspect that the one mentioned on the front cover of Fly Fisherman isn't a "central WA" spring creek. My guess... it's further east. No clues more than that. Also, why should someone else care if you choose to publicly share fishing info... or also.... not share fishing info.? One of my secret lakes got revealed on this bb. I was guilty of the same act as you as I sent the guy private email and asked him why he did it. His reply was he thought that lake was common knowledge. This might end up stirring up some discussion, but let's keep it from getting heated. Bill Warner > ---------- > From: Jim Speaker[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Where's everyone going this weekend? > > Good topic Mike! (I've been desperate for a topic all day) > > I'm going to check out a small lake and its feeder spring creek in central > WA... I've never been to this one so, no, it's not the one I got all upset > about a while back ;-) This will be an explorative venture in search of > bows and browns - I understand there's also bass, crappy and carp > potential > in the area. I may also hop over to Rocky Ford if I don't like the area > I'm > scoping out (was that a hint? okay, just a little one) > > Hey Mike: Be sure to hit the fast water right below the diversion dam > with > #16 olive scuds bumping bottom... he'll be into more fish than he can > shake > a stick at! Those fast water fish also seem to love #14 red san juan > worms > during the winter. Picked up a 25" bow down there last winter/early > spring > on a san juan, and my buddy Jeff and I have had 40+ fish days down there > with those flies. > > -tight lines- > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Is the list down? Test message... > > > Well since none of us have anything to report about where we have been how > about reports on where you are going to go? > > I am headed out to take a friend fishing at Rocky Ford on Friday. He has > been wanting to learn to fly fish for years and even though I told him > about > the snobby nature of the RF fish he still wants to submit himself to that > kind of punishment. I tried to convince him that July on the St. Joe > would > a lot more fun. Oh well, I haven't seen him in a couple of years so that > will make the trip worth it right there. > > Mike > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
