Lol Dim Tim,..is that like Dim Sim but takes a bit longer to cook? :) hehehe. Sorry couldn’t resist,…lol :) (and he knows I’m joking,…so that’s OK ) :)
Sent from my iPhone 7 --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> **For everything Apple** NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be requested. > On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:16 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: > > Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic. > > Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of > different ways the phrases can be put together. > > Two and Two > Factor and Step > Verification and Authentication > > I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication > The older one is Two-step verification > > In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I > imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course the > two words are in fact interchangeable. > > Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both! > > Tim > > >> On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >> >> >> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Ronni. >>> >>> I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated by >>> two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. >>> >>> I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. >>> ;-). >>> >>> I’m still a little confused but I am assuming the Two-Factor Verification >>> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. >> >> No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned in >> my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security. >> >>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication? >>> >>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built >>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a >>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features >>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to >>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or >>> later. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> Sent from Tim's iPhone >>> >>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> >>>> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the >>>> newer “Two-Factor Verification" >>>> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my >>>> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification >>>> ON >>>> >>>> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted >>>> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit >>>> verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to >>>> provide at least one SMS capable phone number. >>>> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or >>>> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need >>>> to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit >>>> verification code. >>>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication? >>>> >>>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built >>>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a >>>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features >>>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to >>>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or >>>> later. >>>> >>>> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El >>>> Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If >>>> you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to >>>> iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may >>>> be automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication. >>>> >>>> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to >>>> users who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are >>>> otherwise ineligible for two-factor authentication. >>>> >>>> More details are at this link: >>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204152> >>>> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017 >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Ronni, >>>>> >>>>> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in >>>>> Jun 3, 2016. >>>>> >>>>> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the >>>>> Security area as per the direction, there are five options: >>>>> >>>>> PASSWORD >>>>> Change Password… >>>>> >>>>> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS >>>>> Add a Trusted Phone Number… >>>>> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in >>>>> and to recover your account if you lose access. >>>>> >>>>> APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS >>>>> Generate Password… >>>>> Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not >>>>> provided by Apple.Learn more. >>>>> >>>>> NOTIFICATION EMAIL >>>>> xxxx@email address >>>>> Remove >>>>> Edit Email Address… >>>>> Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and >>>>> security related information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION >>>>> On >>>>> Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple ID >>>>> is used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more. >>>>> Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As per my previous email, I’ve found a solution which works. Apple just >>>>> needs to update it’s help files, unless I have missed something. >>>>> >>>>> Ta >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you lost your Recovery Key >>>>>> As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to >>>>>> one of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery >>>>>> Key. >>>>>> • Go to your Apple ID account page. >>>>>> • Sign in with your password and trusted device. >>>>>> • In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key. >>>>>> Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't >>>>>> work anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your >>>>>> account. >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202649> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>>>> >>>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Solution found. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will >>>>>>> need to generate a new Verification Code. Then instead of using ONLY >>>>>>> the AppleID password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of >>>>>>> the password in one long string. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for >>>>>>>> a while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated >>>>>>>> Two Factor authentication some time ago. I am running High Sierra OSX >>>>>>>> 10.13.4 and iOS 11.3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072 “Generate a recovery key >>>>>>>> after you update to two-factor authentication” it gives the directions >>>>>>>> to go to iCloud preferences and generate a new Recovery Key. But the >>>>>>>> only option is to give an Verification Code, not a Recover Key. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID >>>>>>>> password and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I >>>>>>>> would have stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so >>>>>>>> because I cannot find it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move >>>>>>>> forward for this old iPad. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> Tim >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
