Not a problem Tim, all good š And āThe Piesā had a great win Friday night šš„
Cheers, Ronni ļ£æ Ronni Brownās iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:16 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: > > Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic. > > Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of > different ways the phrases can be put together. > > Two and Two > Factor and Step > Verification and Authentication > > I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication > The older one is Two-step verification > > In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I > imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course the > two words are in fact interchangeable. > > Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both! > > Tim > > >> On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> ļ£æ Ronni Brownās iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >> >> >>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Ronni. >>> >>> Iām pretty sure sure Iām properly verified, authorised and authenticated by >>> two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. >>> >>> Iām off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so Iām optimised as well. >>> ;-). >>> >>> Iām still a little confused but I am assuming the Two-Factor Verification >>> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. >> >> No they are NOT the same- āsimilarā but they are different as I mentioned in >> my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security. >> >>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication? >>> >>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built >>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Appleās websites. It offers a >>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features >>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to >>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or >>> later. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> Sent from Tim's iPhone >>> >>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Tim, >>>> >>>> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple IDā and the >>>> newer āTwo-Factor Verification" >>>> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my >>>> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification >>>> ON >>>> >>>> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted >>>> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit >>>> verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to >>>> provide at least one SMS capable phone number. >>>> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or >>>> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need >>>> to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit >>>> verification code. >>>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication? >>>> >>>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built >>>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Appleās websites. It offers a >>>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features >>>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to >>>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or >>>> later. >>>> >>>> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El >>>> Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If >>>> you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to >>>> iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may >>>> be automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication. >>>> >>>> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to >>>> users who donāt have Apple devices, canāt update their devices, or are >>>> otherwise ineligible for two-factor authentication. >>>> >>>> More details are at this link: >>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204152> >>>> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017 >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Ronni, >>>>> >>>>> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in >>>>> Jun 3, 2016. >>>>> >>>>> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the >>>>> Security area as per the direction, there are five options: >>>>> >>>>> PASSWORD >>>>> Change Passwordā¦ >>>>> >>>>> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS >>>>> Add a Trusted Phone Numberā¦ >>>>> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in >>>>> and to recover your account if you lose access. >>>>> >>>>> APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS >>>>> Generate Passwordā¦ >>>>> Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not >>>>> provided by Apple.Learn more. >>>>> >>>>> NOTIFICATION EMAIL >>>>> xxxx@email address >>>>> Remove >>>>> Edit Email Addressā¦ >>>>> Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and >>>>> security related information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION >>>>> On >>>>> Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple ID >>>>> is used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more. >>>>> Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As per my previous email, Iāve found a solution which works. Apple just >>>>> needs to update itās help files, unless I have missed something. >>>>> >>>>> Ta >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you lost your Recovery Key >>>>>> As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to >>>>>> one of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery >>>>>> Key. >>>>>> Go to your Apple ID account page. >>>>>> Sign in with your password and trusted device. >>>>>> In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key. >>>>>> Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't >>>>>> work anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your >>>>>> account. >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202649> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>>>> >>>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Solution found. :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will >>>>>>> need to generate a new Verification Code. Then instead of using ONLY >>>>>>> the AppleID password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of >>>>>>> the password in one long string. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law <t...@peoplehelp.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for >>>>>>>> a while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated >>>>>>>> Two Factor authentication some time ago. I am running High Sierra OSX >>>>>>>> 10.13.4 and iOS 11.3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072 āGenerate a recovery key >>>>>>>> after you update to two-factor authenticationā it gives the directions >>>>>>>> to go to iCloud preferences and generate a new Recovery Key. But the >>>>>>>> only option is to give an Verification Code, not a Recover Key. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID >>>>>>>> password and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I >>>>>>>> would have stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so >>>>>>>> because I cannot find it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move >>>>>>>> forward for this old iPad. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> Tim >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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