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> On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:59 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Not a problem Tim, all good š > And āThe Piesā had a great win Friday night šš„ > > Cheers, > Ronni > ļ£æ Ronni Brownās iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > > > On 15 Apr 2018, at 6:16 pm, Tim Law <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic. >> >> Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of >> different ways the phrases can be put together. >> >> Two and Two >> Factor and Step >> Verification and Authentication >> >> I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication >> The older one is Two-step verification >> >> In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I >> imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course >> the two words are in fact interchangeable. >> >> Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both! >> >> Tim >> >> >>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> ļ£æ Ronni Brownās iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>> >>> >>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Ronni. >>>> >>>> Iām pretty sure sure Iām properly verified, authorised and authenticated >>>> by two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. >>>> >>>> Iām off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so Iām optimised as well. >>>> ;-). >>>> >>>> Iām still a little confused but I am assuming the Two-Factor Verification >>>> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. >>> >>> No they are NOT the same- āsimilarā but they are different as I mentioned >>> in my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security. >>> >>>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication? >>>> >>>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built >>>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Appleās websites. It offers a >>>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features >>>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to >>>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or >>>> later. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone >>>> >>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> >>>>> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple IDā and the >>>>> newer āTwo-Factor Verification" >>>>> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my >>>>> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step >>>>> Verification ON >>>>> >>>>> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted >>>>> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive >>>>> 4-digit verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're >>>>> required to provide at least one SMS capable phone number. >>>>> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or >>>>> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need >>>>> to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit >>>>> verification code. >>>>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication? >>>>> >>>>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built >>>>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Appleās websites. It offers >>>>> a more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain >>>>> features that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is >>>>> available to iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El >>>>> Capitan or later. >>>>> >>>>> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X >>>>> El Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. >>>>> If you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade >>>>> to iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings >>>>> may be automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication. >>>>> >>>>> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to >>>>> users who donāt have Apple devices, canāt update their devices, or are >>>>> otherwise ineligible for two-factor authentication. >>>>> >>>>> More details are at this link: >>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204152 >>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204152>> >>>>> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017 >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Ronni, >>>>>> >>>>>> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in >>>>>> Jun 3, 2016. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the >>>>>> Security area as per the direction, there are five options: >>>>>> >>>>>> PASSWORD >>>>>> Change Passwordā¦ >>>>>> >>>>>> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS >>>>>> Add a Trusted Phone Numberā¦ >>>>>> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in >>>>>> and to recover your account if you lose access. >>>>>> >>>>>> APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS >>>>>> Generate Passwordā¦ >>>>>> Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not >>>>>> provided by Apple.Learn more. >>>>>> >>>>>> NOTIFICATION EMAIL >>>>>> xxxx@email address >>>>>> Remove >>>>>> Edit Email Addressā¦ >>>>>> Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and >>>>>> security related information. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION >>>>>> On >>>>>> Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple >>>>>> ID is used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more. >>>>>> Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As per my previous email, Iāve found a solution which works. Apple just >>>>>> needs to update itās help files, unless I have missed something. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ta >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you lost your Recovery Key >>>>>>> As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to >>>>>>> one of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery >>>>>>> Key. >>>>>>> Go to your Apple ID account page >>>>>>> <https://appleid.apple.com/account/home>. >>>>>>> Sign in with your password and trusted device. >>>>>>> In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key. >>>>>>> Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't >>>>>>> work anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your >>>>>>> account. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202649 >>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202649>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >>>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Solution found. :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will >>>>>>>> need to generate a new Verification Code. Then instead of using ONLY >>>>>>>> the AppleID password, I will have to add the Verification to the end >>>>>>>> of the password in one long string. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for >>>>>>>>> a while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have >>>>>>>>> activated Two Factor authentication some time ago. I am running High >>>>>>>>> Sierra OSX 10.13.4 and iOS 11.3 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072 >>>>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072> āGenerate a recovery key >>>>>>>>> after you update to two-factor authenticationā it gives the >>>>>>>>> directions to go to iCloud preferences and generate a new Recovery >>>>>>>>> Key. But the only option is to give an Verification Code, not a >>>>>>>>> Recover Key. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID >>>>>>>>> password and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I >>>>>>>>> would have stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so >>>>>>>>> because I cannot find it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move >>>>>>>>> forward for this old iPad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Tim >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml >>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml >>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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