Ronni I was being more than a little pedantic. Given the three words that make up the two things there are a number of different ways the phrases can be put together.
Two and Two Factor and Step Verification and Authentication I now understand the more modern is Two-factor authentication The older one is Two-step verification In your first response you wrote Two-Factor Verification, instead of what I imagine you meant to write was Two-factor authentication unless of course the two words are in fact interchangeable. Sorry for being painful, or very dim, or both! Tim > On 15 Apr 2018, at 5:58 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > > > On 15 Apr 2018, at 4:24 pm, Tim Law <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Thanks Ronni. >> >> I’m pretty sure sure I’m properly verified, authorised and authenticated by >> two factors, four digits and to top it off, an 18 part password. >> >> I’m off to take the dogs for a walk in the park so I’m optimised as well. >> ;-). >> >> I’m still a little confused but I am assuming the Two-Factor Verification >> you wrote is the same as TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION term that Apple use. > > No they are NOT the same- ‘similar’ but they are different as I mentioned in > my previous reply ;-) They are both Apple ID security. > >> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication? >> >> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built >> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a >> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features >> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to >> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or >> later. > > Cheers, > Ronni >> >> Cheers. >> >> Tim >> >> Sent from Tim's iPhone >> >> On 15 Apr 2018, at 3:09 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> The confusion is there is "Two-step verification for Apple ID” and the >>> newer “Two-Factor Verification" >>> I still have Two-Step Verification on my Apple ID and therefore set in my >>> iDevices (Settings -Apple ID > Password & Security - Tw0-Step Verification >>> ON >>> >>> When you set up two-step verification, you register one or more trusted >>> devices. A trusted device is a device you control that can receive 4-digit >>> verification codes using either SMS or Find My iPhone. You're required to >>> provide at least one SMS capable phone number. >>> Then, any time you sign in to manage your Apple ID, sign in to iCloud, or >>> make an iTunes, iBooks, or App Store purchase from a new device, you need >>> to verify your identity by entering both your password and a 4-digit >>> verification code. >>> Is two-step verification the same as two-factor authentication? >>> >>> No. Two-factor authentication is a newer security method that's built >>> directly into iOS, macOS, tvOS, watchOS, and Apple’s websites. It offers a >>> more streamlined user experience and is required to use certain features >>> that call for enhanced security. Two-factor authentication is available to >>> iCloud users with at least one device using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or >>> later. >>> >>> If you have Apple devices that can be updated to iOS 9 or later or OS X El >>> Capitan or later, you should set up two-factor authentication instead. If >>> you use two-step verification for your Apple ID, and then you upgrade to >>> iOS 11 or later, or macOS High Sierra or later, your security settings may >>> be automatically upgraded to two-factor authentication. >>> >>> Two-step verification is an older security method that is available to >>> users who don’t have Apple devices, can’t update their devices, or are >>> otherwise ineligible for two-factor authentication. >>> >>> More details are at this link: >>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204152 >>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204152>> >>> Published Date: Nov 15, 2017 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 2:32 pm, Tim Law <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Ronni, >>>> >>>> I suspect something has changed since that support file was created in Jun >>>> 3, 2016. >>>> >>>> When I go to the Apple ID account page in OSX, and click Edit in the >>>> Security area as per the direction, there are five options: >>>> >>>> PASSWORD >>>> Change Password… >>>> >>>> TRUSTED PHONE NUMBERS >>>> Add a Trusted Phone Number… >>>> Trusted phone numbers are used to verify your identity when signing in and >>>> to recover your account if you lose access. >>>> >>>> APP-SPECIFIC PASSWORDS >>>> Generate Password… >>>> Use an app-specific password when signing in to an app or service not >>>> provided by Apple.Learn more. >>>> >>>> NOTIFICATION EMAIL >>>> xxxx@email address >>>> Remove >>>> Edit Email Address… >>>> Apple uses this notification email to send you important account and >>>> security related information. >>>> >>>> >>>> TWO-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION >>>> On >>>> Your password and a verification code will be required when your Apple ID >>>> is used to sign in on a new device or browser. Learn more. >>>> Turn Off Two-Factor Authentication >>>> >>>> >>>> As per my previous email, I’ve found a solution which works. Apple just >>>> needs to update it’s help files, unless I have missed something. >>>> >>>> Ta >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 1:08 pm, Ronni Brown <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> >>>>> If you lost your Recovery Key >>>>> As long as you remember your Apple ID password and still have access to >>>>> one of your trusted devices, you can sign in and create a new Recovery >>>>> Key. >>>>> Go to your Apple ID account page <https://appleid.apple.com/account/home>. >>>>> Sign in with your password and trusted device. >>>>> In the Security section, click Edit > Replace Lost Key. >>>>> Keep your new Recovery Key in a safe place. Your old Recovery Key won't >>>>> work anymore and you can't use it to reset your password or access your >>>>> account. >>>>> >>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202649 >>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT202649>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>>> >>>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:13 am, Tim Law <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Solution found. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Every time I need to log into iCloud on my iOS 5.1.1. device I will need >>>>>> to generate a new Verification Code. Then instead of using ONLY the >>>>>> AppleID password, I will have to add the Verification to the end of the >>>>>> password in one long string. >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems to work okay. A bit fiddly, but the old device is back on track. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 15 Apr 2018, at 9:43 am, Tim Law <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an old iPad version 1 using iOS 5.1.1 that has been unused for a >>>>>>> while. I would like to be able to log into iCloud but have activated >>>>>>> Two Factor authentication some time ago. I am running High Sierra OSX >>>>>>> 10.13.4 and iOS 11.3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072 >>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT208072> “Generate a recovery key >>>>>>> after you update to two-factor authentication” it gives the directions >>>>>>> to go to iCloud preferences and generate a new Recovery Key. But the >>>>>>> only option is to give an Verification Code, not a Recover Key. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> in iOS 5.5.1 on the iPad, I go to iCloud settings, enter my AppleID >>>>>>> password and the next screen asks for the Recovery Key. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no idea where I may have kept my Recovery Key. Generally I would >>>>>>> have stored it in 1Password, but must have failed to do so because I >>>>>>> cannot find it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way to generate a new Recovery Key? or another way to move >>>>>>> forward for this old iPad. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Tim > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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