Yeah, that's what I intended to say. I think that Google Wave is better suited for collaboration on a document than Google Docs. Actually I already did it - copied the contents of the doc created by Thomas into a wave and made it public. The wave can be found at: https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+EzBfK0s1A/~/conv+root/b+EzBfK0s1B
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro <zmy...@gmail.com>wrote: > By "Google Wave" I think he meant wave.google.com, which, at the moment, > is > a bit more stable and reliable than WIAB (no offense to Yuri's setup). > > --Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 15:56, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > You mean at; > > http://waveinabox.net/ > > I thought of that , but I cant seem to load it. > > > > "A turbulence detected! > > > > Please save your last changes to somewhere and reload the wave." > > > > (starts as soon as a load - Chrome 14.0.835.109 beta-m. Doesn't work > > on the Beta of chrome?) > > > > > > On 29 August 2011 19:42, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Great work Thomas, thanks! > > > Just one suggestion - can we move the discussion to Google Wave? > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I wrote a early draft here; > > >> > > >> > > > https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=14AbilsPE6NRTwBildiTtSQ4I5T3Is7lbmgHnUt95lMc > > >> > > >> Let me know if I am going along the right lines, and I'll correct/add > > >> to based on feedback. > > >> > > >> -Thomas > > >> > > >> ~~~~~~ > > >> Reviews of anything, by anyone; > > >> www.rateoholic.co.uk > > >> Please try out my new site and give feedback :) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 29 August 2011 17:16, Michael MacFadden < > michael.macfad...@gmail.com > > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > done. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Aug 29, 2011, at 7:16 AM, Yuri Z wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> @Michael, Can you please add Thomas to contributors so he would be > > able > > >> to assign the JIRA task to himself? > > >> >> > > >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> Yeah :) Thanks > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Thomas Wrobel < > darkfl...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >> Would this do as the task; > > >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WAVE-290 > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On 29 August 2011 15:50, Paul Thomas <dt01pqt...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> >> > Epic? WAIB goes under there. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > ________________________________ > > >> >> > From: Thomas Wrobel <darkfl...@gmail.com> > > >> >> > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org > > >> >> > Sent: Mon, 29 August, 2011 14:30:16 > > >> >> > Subject: Re: Update Wiki for Apache Wave > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Sure...should I categorise this as just a "TASK" or maybe a > > >> >> > "STORY".....kinda new to all this so not sure what category this > > issue > > >> >> > would fall under. (I dread to think what gets put under "EPIC" !) > > >> >> > > > >> >> > -Thomas > > >> >> > > > >> >> > ~~~~~~ > > >> >> > Reviews of anything, by anyone; > > >> >> > www.rateoholic.co.uk > > >> >> > Please try out my new site and give feedback :) > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On 29 August 2011 14:44, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> >> Thanks for picking this up Thomas. You can open an issue in the > > Wave > > >> JIRA > > >> >> >> for this and assign it to yourself. > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Thomas Wrobel < > > darkfl...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> Seeing as I didn't have much luck picking apart the code, I > could > > >> have > > >> >> >>> a go at this. At least to put more details in then there is > now. > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> Probably need checking over after I'm done for accuracy/missing > > >> >> >>> information. (and spelling...) > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> Shall I sign up for the task? > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> -Thomas Wrobel > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> ~~~~~~ > > >> >> >>> Reviews of anything, by anyone; > > >> >> >>> www.rateoholic.co.uk > > >> >> >>> Please try out my new site and give feedback :) > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> On 27 August 2011 14:09, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> >>> > I think a good first step for creation Apache Wave Wiki page > > would > > >> be > > >> >> >>> fill > > >> >> >>> > in the "History" part of the "About Apache Wave" page at > > >> >> >>> > http://incubator.apache.org/wave/about.html. > > >> >> >>> > > > >> >> >>> > Currently the "History" contains the following TODO: "Lets > > >> summarize > > >> >> >>> Google > > >> >> >>> > Wave, Fed One, Wave in a Box, Apache Wave, the protocol, etc. > > It > > >> will be > > >> >> >>> > interesting to keep this information for people to understand > > how > > >> the > > >> >> >>> > project has evolved." > > >> >> >>> > > > >> >> >>> > Would be great of someone would take on the task to address > > this > > >> TODO. > > >> >> >>> > > > >> >> >>> > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >> Great! Thanks for taking on this! > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >> 2011/8/10 Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> Suggestion made here : > > >> >> >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Apache_Wave#Apache_Wave > > >> >> >>> >>> > > >> >> >>> >>> - Jeremy > > >> >> >>> >>> > > >> >> >>> >>> > > >> >> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jérémy Naegel < > > >> jeremy....@gmail.com> > > >> >> >>> >>> wrote: > > >> >> >>> >>> > > >> >> >>> >>> > What I'm not familiar with is the Wikipedia revision / > > >> revocation of > > >> >> >>> >>> > changes policy... > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > I'll try to suggest that change inside the discussion > page > > and > > >> see if > > >> >> >>> it > > >> >> >>> >>> > triggers any reaction. > > >> >> >>> >>> > After a few days without reactions or with positive > > reactions, > > >> I > > >> >> >>> guess > > >> >> >>> >>> it > > >> >> >>> >>> > would be OK to change back the title. > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > Then it will be possible to create a new "Apache Wave" > > entry > > >> (as it > > >> >> >>> >>> won't > > >> >> >>> >>> > be a duplicate). > > >> >> >>> >>> > I could start it, with the Apache Wave website definition > > and > > >> some > > >> >> >>> >>> general > > >> >> >>> >>> > infos, but I won't be able to add technical details. > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > Btw, If someone whose mother tongue is English wants to > > help, > > >> that > > >> >> >>> would > > >> >> >>> >>> be > > >> >> >>> >>> > much appreciated! > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > - Jeremy > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Yuri Z < > vega...@gmail.com > > > > > >> wrote: > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> I see. So I guess that's what should be done. The entry > > >> should be > > >> >> >>> >>> renamed > > >> >> >>> >>> >> back to Google Wave and a new entry for Apache Wave (and > > Wave > > >> in a > > >> >> >>> Box) > > >> >> >>> >>> >> should be created. > > >> >> >>> >>> >> I am not that familiar with the standards for creating > > Wiki > > >> entries, > > >> >> >>> >>> also, > > >> >> >>> >>> >> I personally would prefer to spend my spare time on > > actually > > >> >> >>> creating > > >> >> >>> >>> >> patches for WIAB. So I thought that maybe some non > > technical > > >> >> >>> community > > >> >> >>> >>> >> member would like to take on this (actually very > > important) > > >> task. > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> >> 2011/8/10 Jérémy Naegel <jeremy....@gmail.com> > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > About this Apache Wave Wikipedia page : It was, up > until > > a > > >> couple > > >> >> >>> of > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > months, > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > the Google Wave page and it has simply been renamed > > Apache > > >> Wave. I > > >> >> >>> >>> think > > >> >> >>> >>> >> it > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > was a bad move, this page should have stayed the > Google > > >> Wave page > > >> >> >>> >>> since > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > Google Wave is still an existing service, and a new > > Apache > > >> Wave > > >> >> >>> page > > >> >> >>> >>> >> should > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > have been created from scratch since it's a fresh > start > > for > > >> the > > >> >> >>> >>> product. > > >> >> >>> >>> >> I > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > think the renaming edit of the page should simply be > > >> undone, but I > > >> >> >>> >>> guess > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > this will trigger a debate among the contributors. > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > - Jeremy > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dan Peterson < > > >> >> >>> dpeter...@google.com > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > wrote: > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Agreed -- go for it! > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > From: Upayavira [mailto:u...@odoko.co.uk] > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 04:33 AM > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > To: wave-dev@incubator.apache.org < > > >> >> >>> wave-dev@incubator.apache.org> > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Subject: Re: Update Wiki for Apache Wave > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > I'd say just do it. If anyone wants to help, they > will > > >> have an > > >> >> >>> >>> 'edit' > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > button too. > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Upayavira > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:25 +0300, "Yuri Z" < > > >> vega...@gmail.com> > > >> >> >>> >>> wrote: > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > I stumbled upon the Wiki page for Apache > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > Wave<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Wave>- > and > > my > > >> >> >>> >>> impression > > >> >> >>> >>> >> was > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > that it's of very low quality and conveys very > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > little information about Apache Wave and Wave in a > > Box > > >> >> >>> project. > > >> >> >>> >>> Most > > >> >> >>> >>> >> of > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > the > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > information is related to Google Wave. I thought > > that > > >> it > > >> >> >>> could > > >> >> >>> >>> be > > >> >> >>> >>> >> nice > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > to > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > discuss how we can improve /restructure the Wiki > > entry > > >> for > > >> >> >>> Apache > > >> >> >>> >>> >> Wave. > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > > > >> >> >>> >>> > > >> >> >>> >> > > >> >> >>> > > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >