> 
> Javilk writes:
> 
> >     Amongst some people. Others... Why should I have a pager?  Call me
> > before the crisis, and it won't happen.
> 
>      "Because it looks cool".  Not that this is a particular concern
> of mine, but that's the reasoning he's referring to.  Frankly, the

    To whom?  Upper management?  Or other techno-geeks like myself?

> gadget on *my* wish-list is a milspec SparcBook from Tadpole
> (www.tadpol.com....).  Hm, looks like they merged with RDI and are no
> longer offering the "ruggedized" military version.  I may yet build
> one myself; something in me is just fascinated with the idea of a
> bulletproof laptop :-).

   Now there is my idea of something worth while having!  But
non-ruggedized... well, it just isn't the same anymore...   (Though I do
own a Grid 386... paid $1.00 each for two of them surplus.  Alas, not
enough RAM to run Linux.  And somewhat passe of late.)

> >    Yes, a demonstration of respect and willingness to partake in the
> > common effort.
> 
>      Also important but a separate issue.  The message you send by your
> choice in apparel and behavior is something you need to think about, but
> the issue of common ground to unite a team is a separate one.

    I tend to be the last one leaving a project... I think it's the suits.

> >    "Get away"... But what is the opportunity cost of that "getting away"? 
> 
>      Depends on the circumstances.  In some environments, wearing
> T-shirt and jeans and tennis shoes will get you farther than wearing a
> suit - it's something in the nature of a bluff, though it's not really
> a bluff:

     Yes... two interviews I lost because "they" were wearing shorts.  Not
my style, anyway.

>      If you're good enough to back it up, it establishes a certain
> amount of respect and freedom (both personal and organizational) for
> you.
> 
>      Demonstrating conformance can buy you a certain amount of
> cooperation, but it also implicitly commits you to buying into the
> existing organizational power structure.

     I have my own standards -- there's someone out there who pays all our
salaries.  If we don't support him and her, we won't get paid.  I am, in
the long haul, hired to help you help them.  If you are going to screw
them instead, I have no business working for you.  Though I might ask
polite questions that should enlighten you before I leave.

> > For me, the suit and tie speaks for me, letting me keep my mouth shut when
> 
>      It is gratifyingly amazing how your mode of dress influences
> certain echelons - law enforcement and security personnel being two of
> them.  It sucks, but it's life; they're in a stressful and risk-ridden
> environment and they tend to grasp at the most immediate clues to
> determine the safest (for them) course of behavior.

     I suppose it is a question of whom you are, your clothing, your body,
or the soul who wears your body.  I am a soul.  I remember many deaths,
some for illness, and some for reason.  I think it easier to die for
reason than for illness; it leaves one with a clearer perception of one's
values, and ultimately, whom one is. 

     As to convention, I adopt what seems to work to soothe those whom I
work with, and show that I support the main part of this culture.  I am
not a rebel, nor a judge; but a mediator with a set of values.   

> > > i also get a certain amount of grace because i'm not a businessman,
> > > i'm a programmer.   my life tends to be easier if i fall into the
> > > archetype of the 'hired gun' rather than trying to pass as another
> > > 'wealthy land-owner'.   land-owners want their paid assasins to *look*
> > > like paid assasins, so a certain difference of appearance is expected,
> > > and accepted.
> > 
> >      Um... I suppose where they want a hired gun type solution...  which
> > usually means the lower echelons, and as of late, they have to grovel
> > before a lot more people to get approval to hire the gun.  And some seem
> > to have an innate fear that the gun might be misused against them
> > afterwards...
> 
>      See above about establishing your location either outside of or
> inside of the power structure.  A hired gun has the advantage that he
> doesn't have to worry about the status quo as much.  He's expected to
> step on people's toes in the pursuit of getting the job done, and
> he'll go away after he does so.  Sometimes this works for you; other
> times the political winds shift and the project gets reorganized and
> you go out the door because you stepped on the wrong toes.

   I will be out the door whether I succeed, or fail; whether I step on
toes, or kiss them.  In the end, what matters is the one who will use my
work.  And yes, the bottom line.  If I can not save or make you more money
than you pay me, I have no business being there.

> > > my own look happens to be based on the neo-tribal tech genre.. all
> > > black clothing, ponytail, combat boots, habitually unshaved.. the only
> > 
> >      I think black comes from working on the old CRT's, where white shirts
> > often resulted in some glare.
> 
>      Black comes from youth underground culture, which comes from
> areas like the gothic movement (which comes from the 17th or 18th, I
> forget which, resurgence in interest in gothic literature and "all
> things Scottish"), the techno/industrial movement, and in general from
> the misguided romanticism that "black" as a color has.  On the other hand,
> many of my favorite garments are black because it's hard to go wrong
> with basic black... I just have to watch out I don't accidentally end
> up dressed all in black and get mistaken for a goth! :-)

   Ever since Beu Brummell, I think...  I don't follow those kinds of
things much.  

>      Yeah, but a get-up like that can create a reputation, or more to
> the point an aura.  It's all about psychology...

     (Laugning!)  Problem is, I tend ot go for the guts and ignore auras.
I walk this earth, touch reality with my hands as well as my feet, and
help bring the forms out of reality like some carver working a stone or
bough to bring out the inner form.  The world is not a blank slate as many
seem to think; it has form and function.  If one sees into the structure
of reality, one tends to get done sooner with a better product than if one
tries to impose an arbitrary structure upon reality.

      What I mean is, people tend to use things in certain ways, and
reality tends to follow certain patterns.  I tend to mediate the two into
something more generically suitable than a one shot disposable tool.

> >      Fear may be a form of power.  But so is the sense of friendship, even
> > kinship others feel towards those who are seen as members of the club,
> > and willing to help others.  A good image and a smile will transcend even
> > the barriers of language.
> 
>      But not barriers of culture.  In some cultures, a smile can be a
> grievous insult (for example, a smile that shows your teeth is an
> insult in japan).  Your point is valid however; I've seen more than

    The example was a Japanese consultant I worked with.  He spoke very
little English. Mostly we drew diagrams, pointed at lines of code, and
chuckled at ourselves as we saw how we had misunderstood each other.  I
tend to follow the facial patterns and voices of others... but growing up
in a European family, with a European body language, I tend to smile with
my mouth shut.

> one expert get shot down in flames because they antagonized and
> alienated the people they were working with.  It's a tricky line to
> walk.

    Far trickier than a good image and a smile.  There are some people who
just radiate. They need not be open or gregarious; but you can see they
are decent. (Unless, of course, they turn out to be psychopaths...)

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