Michelle hopefully this note finds its way to you in clarity…
I will try to address things in line with your discussion. From: michelle olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:45 PM To: Ronald A. DeMena III Cc: [email protected]; 'Marty Duey'; 'Derek Cicero' Subject: Re: [website-discuss] May splash page Hi Ron, Thanks so much for these detailed comments, my replies inline. Ronald A. DeMena III wrote: I like the splash as well as the new design proposed ... my suggestions build on Derek's a bit. I believe we should build everything into a verb-noun assembly. Thus the verb has a context by which it is applied... Such as: Download OpenSolaris (Go directly to downloads do not pass go, do not collect $200 dollars ... Emphasis on download and less on OpenSolaris - I don’t think they need to see OpenSolaris.Com in the screen, nor OpenSolaris.Org in the screen Do I understand you to be saying that we should not have the text 'opensolaris.org' and 'opensolaris.com' on the splash page as they currently appear? Or am I misunderstanding? Maybe you mean that we shouldn't redirect to opensolaris.com when user selects 'Download'? Thanks for any clarification you can give. Yes I mean remove the OpenSolaris.org and OpenSolaris.com and just simply have a single “OpenSolaris” as a parent to the entire content. Transistion from the org TLD to com TLD should be transparent and we should find ways to support such without confusion my establishing clear content, if that is the intent to use the .Com TLD for downloads. Specifically I do not agree with creating a multiple site presence, I believe everything should be seamless and transparent to the end user. Like most Sun technologies, easy in and easy out. - we should be a unified presence although content may be different based on the TLD assignment. We need to provide clear redirection on any page.) Sorry, I don't know what TLD assignment is. Can you talk about your vision for 'unified presence' a little more? I agree with this theory completely, and I'm pretty concerned about confusion related to two sets of branding, so I welcome any additional thoughts you have. The Top Level Domains .Org or .Com should never matter in the case of managing this community. If we drive specific content towards a OpenSolaris.Com the same flow or linkage to the appropriate content on the .Org domain should exist. This again should be transparent to the end user. I don’t like spelling it out. Likewise I believe the potential use as we encountered already such as .Biz or .Net could also be incorporated into this logic. Get Source Code (For the brave people out there) Make Contributions (Go to the community pages with an intro on how to contribute in each of the significantly defined ways, and point them to the projects, groups, etc.) In your opinion, what are the top ways to contribute that we should introduce? The page I drafted covers the following: innovations, code, documentation, testing, translations, advocacy, and country portals. Any help is appreciated. So I didn’t mean to draw away from the point but apparently I did. I just wanted to suggest that the splash be shortened to “Make Contributions” as the verb-noun complex. When they click on it or if it expands into a menu or otherwise, it would introduce them into those ways to contribute as you had described. Find Help (Go to an extended / advanced search engine page that will traverse the world and assist in finding where an answer may lay) Interesting, I have a google custom search I could modify for this purpose. This brings up a question about difference in perception of terminology with regard to get vs. find. Maybe this is the split we need to make 'get support' and 'find information'. Not sure.. I am not a fan of Get… “Get” typically implies something physically tangible. “Find” emphasizes a responsibility of the end user to engage in an action, whether it be information, or help specifically. Get is raw, find is more intelligible. Personal preference could also be argued, but if someone goes to the site to find something it is typically help on a problem or situation, be it tracking down a sample man page, example, documentation, or experiences repeated from a discussion thread. Discuss Experiences (Go straight to discussions where an individual can provide input or challenge input of others or just read the threads) This is not a top-level item that we have considered, except in an earlier draft I wanted a set of links on the front page not only to discussions, but also user groups, chats, universities, and forums. The feedback suggested the links were too confusing. If others agree with you, we should resurrect this idea. I absolutely believe that Discuss Experiences should be there… people want to know both the good and bad laundry, and they usually want to know it first before they consider contributing, as well as seeing how people work together to resolve the issues. As an example, much of what we are fighting through now with the Website CG could be shown, or when Xen got first rolled out as part of the system. One thing Microsoft did good is they started thinking about how people experienced their products back with Windows XP. Not saying we need to repeat their actions but the concept of making life easy or flow smoothly is an important part of getting involved. Social organizations today fall apart because people get too interpretive of the language used, or develop animosity over petite issues. If we want people to contribute, and we feel there is a lot of positive material, then we need to expose it quickly to them and make our discussions or experiences available quickly, clearly, and completely. Each of these would have content to guide visitors in achieving their goal during the visit... I also believe in having a quick simple search on every page. Many people get lost in the current mess, and there is no doubt messes of pages will always exist, especially in a growing and thriving environment. Right, the current splash page draft doesn't have registration or search. This is something we can consider also. I will at least add it to the current draft and see what folks think. Thanks again for your time, Michelle --Ron -----Original Message----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED] solaris.org [HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"mailto:website-discuss-bounc [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marty Duey Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:42 AM To: Derek Cicero Cc: HYPERLINK "mailto:[email protected]"[email protected] Subject: Re: [website-discuss] May splash page On 4/22/2008 6:17 PM, Derek Cicero wrote: All, As a follow-up to Michelle's earlier email about the splash page for May, here is the current thinking for the launch. HYPERLINK "http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/website/splash2/"http://www.opensolar is.org/os/project/website/splash2/ Good stuff, Derek. Tweaks I would recommend are: Remove "I want" or "I need" and start with a verb, e.g., Learn about OpenSolaris, Get the source. The idea is to introduce opensolaris.com as the place to download the binary and to receive end-user help, with more substantial development issues being directed to opensolaris.org. Expanding on this, it makes sense to point individuals interested in things other than source and contributing to projects to opensolaris.com. That would put links to learn, help, download/use, on the opensolaris.com side. Each of the links on the .org side would go to new landing page of existing materials that Michelle is putting together. We're doing something similar with an "OpenSolaris Initiative" for the Sun Partner Advantage Program. This will be a place where information about OpenSolaris from wide ranging sources are presented in a concise and efficient manner. We're not necessarily creating new material, but providing quick access to what already exists based on the individual's or company interest The opensolaris.org graphic would take the user to the current .org home page. Any existing bookmarks to opensolaris.org/os/ would still be valid. The opensolaris.com graphic will go to that home page, as shown here: HYPERLINK "http://www.gnome.org/~gman/opensolaris-new/index.html"http://www.gnome.org/ ~gman/opensolaris-new/index.html Comments welcome. Derek No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1394 - Release Date: 4/23/2008 7:16 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.4/1394 - Release Date: 4/23/2008 7:16 PM
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