jeez ellen - chill!  ok, i have a friend who is deaf (from birth) - 
there is a sense of pride in the deaf culture that is hard to 
understand - this is an excerpt from wiki (i'd ask her but i've 
asked her before and i don't remember exactly what she said but it 
was along the same lines) **this is long!!*

For the above reason, culturally Deaf people do not look on deafness 
as a disability. Deaf people view deafness as an asset in much the 
same way it is an asset to be a Navajo within the Navajo tribe or to 
be a Korean within the community of Koreans in Los Angeles. It is a 
manner of viewing the world and a matter of semantics. Most Deaf see 
deafness as the norm and thus do not see hearing as something they 
lack or envy, even though the significant majority of the population 
has moderate to profound hearing loss. One would not define Navajos 
or Koreans as lacking the ability to be something other than Navajo 
or Korean. They, and the culturally Deaf, define themselves by what 
they are instead of what they are not. They consider what they are 
to be a positive trait, because it is tightly connected to their 
culture.  A hearing person may not understand why some deaf people 
express no sense of loss over being unable to experience sound. 
Since experiencing sound is something some deaf people never had, 
there may be no loss or associated emotions with not having it. Deaf 
people are aware of the things they cannot succeed in or may be at a 
disadvantage and may be adept at ferreting out the range of 
activities in which they can occupy or create an established niche. 
This may seem unusual to some hearing people because they are aware 
of the abundance of opportunities afforded to people who hear sounds.

also cochlear implants only work for those recently deaf and have 
grown up in a speaking world and they MUST have a functioning 
auditory nerve.  my friend doesn't have one.  it also doesn't 
restore hearing or simulate "real" hearing - it is only useful for 
auditory understanding of the environment and can help them to 
understand speech (if they've grown up speaking).  it is also pretty 
major surgery - a hole is drilled into your mastoid bone and inner 
ear where electrodes are implanted into your cochlea - possible side 
effects are damage to facial nerves causing disfigurment. 

does that make sense? 

--- In [email protected], "Ellen" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That was a total non sequiteur.  Do you honestly believe that deaf 
> people wouldn't rather be able to hear?  And understand what 
people 
> are saying if they aren't using sign language?  This has NOTHING 
to 
> do with how other people feel about them.  This is just about 
> ability.  Lightening your skin to have better opportunities would 
> just be about acceptance and changing how people feel about you 
> (maybe, unfortunately).  It wouldn't change your inherent 
abilities 
> or strengths or skills.  You still haven't answered my basic 
> question.  Regardless of what deaf people say to the media or in 
> public, do you truly think that at least a good number wouldn't 
> rather be able to hear what is going on around them, given the 
> choice?  Why is it any different than blind people wanting to be 
able 
> to see?  Again, should I have been content to just go along with 
what 
> nature gave me and not be able to to fully function in society 
> because I refused to correct my vision?  There is something wrong 
> with these people's hearing mechanism!  They have to compensate or 
> correct it, or they won't be able to fully participate in their 
> society.  Do I really sound prejudiced?  You're certainly entitled 
to 
> your opinion, but I think deaf people should be able to do 
everything 
> they are capable of.  I just think that if they want to take 
> advantage of technology to improve their hearing or comprehend 
speech 
> without sign language, they should be able to.  Is that really a 
> problem?  Black people don't have something wrong with their skin 
or 
> pigment, it's just different.  I don't really think it is a 
> complicated philosophical question, and you can argue just for the 
> sake of arguing, but it is totally different than black people 
> wanting to be white just to be accepted.  At least that is my 
> perspective, obviously.
> 





 
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