I just think some of them have a holier than thou attitude in that they project their position on others. In other words, if they think lipreading is bad, then everyone else should too, or there is something wrong with them. My view is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion/decision, but you have to respect people whose decisions may be different from yours. I have dealt with this for a long time--I am Jewish but not very observant, and I went to a college with many observant Jews. I had to deal with, "I can't understand how you can call yourself Jewish when you don't keep kosher and you don't keep sabbath and you don't go to synagogue every week" etc. etc. Neither I nor anyone else should have to justify our decisions to others who think they are better because they do things differently or more "by the book" whatever that means. That's all. Bottom line--I don't think it's fair to get on the case of a deaf person who chooses to read lips. It's not a case of "passing" for hearing. It's a case of doing the best you can to get by in a world full of sound and hearing people in a way that works for you. There are clearly other issues about Fernandes which may very well be legitimate, but this particular one struck a nerve.
--- In [email protected], "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I understand what you are saying ellen, but then again, i'm a > hearing person - i don't have the experience of being in that > culture - but this is the impression i get - remember when > interracial relationships/marriage were strictly forbidden? i know, > race isn't a "disability" but they don't see being deaf as a > disability - also, they don't see recently deaf people the same way > either... it's a very complex community, but from what i've seen, a > very tight knit community. in a way i envy that - and i LOVE to see > a conversation amoung deaf people - it's like watching a ballet - > and they have an advantage, because they can "hear" each other in > very loud situations where we hearing would be unable to hear each > other. also, they don't see race - there's no black/white/asian in > their culture - either you are deaf or you are not! i like that! > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ellen" > <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > Not sure, but I'm not saying everyone should get cochlear > implants, > > obviously they don't cure everyone's deafness. And some people > don't > > want it fixed as you're saying. But to be deaf and protesting > other > > people having them seems extreme. It's fine to not want them, but > > why should you care if other people want them? I still don't > think > > there is a parallel between being deaf and being a certain race. > It > > isn't equivalent. Sure being deaf makes you part of a smaller > > subculture and if that's fine with you it's fine with me. But if > it > > isn't fine with you then you should be able to learn how to read > lips > > and do what it takes to function in the larger society. If you > were > > born unable to ever walk, should that be OK, you learn to > compensate, > > or if the technology exists to give you the ability to walk should > be > > you able to take advantage of it? > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weingartenchatters/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weingartenchatters/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
