I guess my issue is that deaf people who don't lip-read can only 
communicate with each other or people who happened to learn sign 
language out of interest or in order to communicate with deaf people 
in their lives.  Do deaf people really think lipreading is such a bad 
thing?  I wonder if most deaf people don't honestly wish they could 
hear.  I don't think any blind people don't wish they could see.  Yes 
of course in a concert you can hear the vibrations, etc., you can see 
people clapping, you learn ways around it.  But don't you think you 
have more professional, social, etc. opportunities if you can hear 
what is going on around you?  I realize it's too different but 
related issues, lipreading and cochlear implants or other devices 
to "cure" deafness.  I don't think I'm being harsh, just realistic. 
You are welcome to disagree, but that is how I feel.


--- In [email protected], "Daria Akers" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Fully enjoy? Humm.... they don't enjoy them like you do but that 
doesn't
> mean that they enjoy them less. I would insert the article from the 
Post a
> few months ago about the deaf interpreters at the Billy Joel 
concert. Great
> article.
> Besides people who are differently-abled sometimes do things that 
we never
> even thought about..... This video is a perfect example:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBv79LKfMt4
> I've personally never thought about trying to learn to echo locate 
because I
> don't have to but sure would be cool.
> Ok that had nothing to do with what we were talking about but it's 
soooo
> COOL.
> Daria
> 
> On 10/12/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > gay vs. deaf is apples and oranges--I'm not talking about 
acceptance
> > vs. discrimination like is the issue with the gay community, I'm
> > talking about being able to to fully participate in society.  Gay
> > people can fully participate in society, except for getting 
married.
> > They can fully enjoy concerts, movies, plays, waves crashing, rain
> > against the window, etc.  It's not an issue of "getting away with"
> > being a hearing person, it's an issue of being able to fully
> > participate in/enjoy all life has to offer.  IMO.
> >
>





 
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