Hi Chris,

If anyone is talking about good reporting in WUP, one is meaning good
displaying on the web. WUP does not have a single real report whatsoever. It
is not very difficult using Crystal Reports. However, the reporting facility
from WUG (wugstatreport) is greatly missed. 

Ipswitch, I hope you are listen. Please give us and the community a runtime
for Crystal and at least the reports available in WUG. "Greatly enhanced
reports" is a misnomer.

Kind regards,

Luz Berger
Berger Network Consult
http://www.bergerl.com
Tel.: 089 67 000 547

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There appears to be a difference of opinion here, particularly on the
reporting aspect of WUP.  I understood that the WUP reporting was supposed
to be greatly improved with more customization and detailed reports made
available to us.  Reading the dozen or so responses on the WUP performance
this morning, I see that Phil in Maine says that WUP doesn't carry over the
same reporting abilities as WUG, and I know that Phil was very experienced
in the WUG reports, creating his own customized reports.  Plain and simple,
is the WUP reporting capability truly more customizable and detailed out of
the box, or does it still require a good dose of programming knowledge (like
utilizing Crystal Reports) to gather only the specific data that you want to
see in a report?

Chris Powers
Systems Engineer
MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
Keane IT Technical Services



 

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Ditto here too, WUG will remain at my company.  WUP doesn't carry over and
provide the same reporting abilities, is MUCH slower even on newer hardware.
WUG integrate wonderfully with Denika from somix or straight MRTG if you
have the time to configure it.

WUG is GOLD in my book.

~ Phil



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> Ditto here. Very disappointed with WUP. We have decided not to migrate 
> to WUP since WUG was much easier to implement and use. On a side note 
> -
since
> WUP so closely resembles HPOpenView our superiors have decided to go 
> that way. Yes, I know it is more expensive but they made the decision 
> and Ipswitch only helped them along by WUP. I mean if you got to learn 
> a new tool then it might as well be the standard - right?!
>
> I will miss WUG and will continue to use it as long as I can.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Jasa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 8:47 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Antwort: [WhatsUp Forum] WUP.. Was it a misstake?
>
> I just wanted to add (maybe totally unrelated), that I've decided 
> AGAINST moving to WUP because of the "fatness" of the application.  It 
> seems WAY more clunky, hard to operate, and doesn't load as fast (most 
> important)
than
> WUG.    It's REALLY slow on my Win2000 system.   Very sad to see this
from
> Ipswitch.   I'm sticking to WUG, it's lean and mean and works well, don't
> know why WUP was craeated to have more bells and whistles yet be more 
> of
a
> drag on the system and slower.   Bad upgrade, IMHO.
> pj
>
> ======================================
> Paul Jasa
> ======================================
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch 
> Altman
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:00 AM
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> Subject: RE: Antwort: [WhatsUp Forum] WUP.. Was it a misstake?
>
> Actually you will see significant slowdowns with XP-SP2. This is not a 
> problem with WUP. The slowdown is because of changes to the TCP stack
made
> by Microsoft. I have attached a web page(from Microsoft) that vaguely 
> describes one aspect of the problem.
>
> Basically WUP will work just fine on XP-SP2. It just runs 
> significantly slower in some circumstances.
>
> Mitch
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Meyer
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 07:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Antwort: [WhatsUp Forum] WUP.. Was it a misstake?
>
> Hi,
>
> After applying SP1, response time went way down. It became so bad, the 
> product was unusable. I erased and reinstalled it without SP1, and 
> things went back to normal. It is currently running on a pc with 
> XP-SP2. Do you know of any compatability issues? We have a server on 
> order. When it arrives, I'll try WUP on that.
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/14/2005 7:38 AM >>>
> Magnus, Maillist,
>
> > Is it just me or am I doing something wrong?
> I'm also experiencing lack of speed in WUP. Connecting trough MSTSC to 
> my Windows hosts, WUP application is extremely slow. Network runs 
> smooth, MSTSC also does. Simply WUP runs at snail pace. NmService.exe 
> permanantly uses 50%+ CPU ressources on a dual 1.4GHz Sun LX50 with 1GB
Ram Win2kSrv.
> MSDE Database on same host.
>
> >
>
http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/WhatsUp/professional/WhatsUp_Professional_D

> atasheet.pdf
> > System Requirements
> > ? Windows 2003 Server, Windows XP (SP1 or later), or Windows 2000 
> > (SP4
> or later recommended)
> > ? 260 MB of disk space
> > ? 256 MB RAM
> > ? To use beeper or pager notifications, a local modem and phone line 
> > is
> required (WhatsUp Professional
> > does not support modem pooling)
> So, my host is adequate H/W, isn't it?
>
> Are there others experiencing this? I'd be pleased to get some 
> feedback
on
> this.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
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