https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49860

--- Comment #15 from [email protected] ---
A(In reply to comment #14)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> > Is the procedure on these requests to suggest that the community was
> > mistaken?
> > That is it not really the community desire? A sysadmin would do that?
> 
> Yes, it is, if the request is seemingly in violation of the basic Wikimedia
> principles of openness and accessbility.
> 
> 
> > What I am
> > saying is that what is being questioned should not be and maybe it is 
> > outside
> > of the sysadmin's decision to judge that. A sysadmin would know that, but I
> > don't know if these out of nowhere imposed barriers are really procedural.
> 
> You seem to be under impression that you're speaking to your employees or
> subordinates. This is clearly a wrong impression, please snap out of it. Both
> Nemo and I are volunteers who ask people like you for answers and
> clarifications so that the sysadmins don't have to and the requests can be
> processed more quickly.
> 
> (In fact, every single person who responded on this bug until now is a
> volunteer.)
> 
> 
> > That
> > is why I am asking sysadmin review. We talk on community. Here, we show the
> > result of something and the ones entitled will deny or accept with their
> > reasons; we shouldn't start another conversation here and put invented
> > barriers. This page [1] is not being followed.
> > 
> > [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_configuration_change
> 
> That's not a rulebook, that's a guide. It also says that "Gaining on-wiki
> consensus and filing a shell bug does not guarantee that the request will be
> fulfilled. Ultimate authority lies with the system administrators, and shell
> bugs may be resolved INVALID or WONTFIX due to performance issues or other
> considerations.". Please consider this.
And that is exactly the kind of posture I'm talking about. The portguese
community will, for sure, have its desires with or without this "community"
help. For sure, the the final result of this whole debacle is that
fundamentalist opinions are now being considered feasible, thank to bugzilla's
lack of sensibility. At this moment, due to this sad development, proposals are
being considered that will restrict IP edits much more than anything you are
hoping to avoid by simply "WONTFIX" us.... It's a real shame that in the
absence of a middle ground stance, the only winners are the radicals...

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