https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208
Platonides <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |[email protected] --- Comment #65 from Platonides <[email protected]> 2011-09-14 20:54:23 UTC --- (In reply to comment #55) > In which case, with all due respect you have missed the point of the > proposal for this rights change. It has nothing to do with making > anything harder - it is to do with !). making it easier for serious > editors to create serious articles, by simplifying the walls of text and > instruction creep and introducing a truly interactive Wizard, Great. What if we start by introducing that, and *then* decide if a) it still needs more work (got o point 0) b) it is good enough, we should try to forbid creation except using it c) it is a fantastic system that should replace default editing d) it convinces anyone to not introduce shitty articles into the wiki etc. Note that such work would need several months, and it would be desired to have that *before* restricting the article creation (that's also what some people manifested in the voting). (In reply to comment #58) > 1. New WP users need to be filtered into two categories: users who genuinely > want to and are capable of contributing encyclopedic content, and users who > want to contribute spam, copyvios, and non-notable content and then leave. > 2. The latter group should not be allowed to easily create new articles > without jumping through some hoops to deter them. The former group should be > educated on what Wikipedia is about, how it works, and what is expected in a > new article. Yes, but How to do that? > The proposed trial provides the deterrent to the non-serious editors, AND > provides a small hurdle for serious editors to get over, which if designed > correctly, that time could be used to properly educate them and get them the > experience they need to successfully create a great new article, One of the greatest strengths of Wikipedia is its immediateness. If a scholar needs to wait four days for creating the article, he may no longer be interested in doing so (just as well as the 12-yo you want to hold back, or even more, since the "12yo" is more likely to create accounts everywhere). (In reply to comment #62) > As far as I can tell, the proposal is to create a noindexed workspace area, > and "highly encourage" (but don't require) new users to create their article > in that workspace first. Then, without any kind of review process at all, > they can move their article into mainspace whenever they want. That's not what I understood. Plus, you could easily add a review before moving to main namespace (just make it a big "Publish now" button instead of "Manually add the page at the bottom of Wikipedia:Pending reviews"). There's also a mention of AbuseFilter quality checks in that page (although imho that's problematic). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
