https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30208
--- Comment #63 from The Blade of the Northern Lights <[email protected]> 2011-09-14 18:38:03 UTC --- (In reply to comment #62) > (In reply to comment #61) > > I've glanced over Erik's proposal and it seems to > > address both issues, simplifying the interface and process while also > > implementing an incubation namespace/workspace/whatever where new articles > > that > > are submitted by inexperienced users or that don't match certain criteria > > can > > be improved upon, reviewed, and admitted to the main namespace (or rejected > > and > > left to rot). > > As far as I can tell, the proposal is to create a noindexed workspace area, > and > "highly encourage" (but don't require) new users to create their article in > that workspace first. Then, without any kind of review process at all, they > can move their article into mainspace whenever they want. In my opinion, this > is an idea which only complicates the article creation process (by giving new > users more options to choose from which they don't understand) while > simultaneously not implementing any steps which would prevent a new user from > creating a new article (in mainspace) on their high school chess club. > > This proposal doesn't address the problem whatsoever. Any real solution to > the > problem will involve some level of forcibly disallowing new users from > creating > new articles until certain conditions are met which guarantee some minimal > level of education about Wikipedia and how it works; and simply registering a > user account does not provide any such guarantee. This is the stumbling > block, > and this is the part of the proposal which WMF apparently rejects, without the > support of any real data on what the consequences would be. We're simply > asking for a chance to collect that data, that is all. Personally, I'd be > happy if the trial was only implemented for 1-2 months, but I can't speak for > the rest of the editors who are pulling for a 6-month trial. Perhaps unsurprisingly, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking. You can't solve this problem by creating more intricacy; the concept of requiring autoconfirmed status is an application of Ockham's razor (or Occam's, whatever your preference); it's supposed to make the process as simple as possible for everyone. I have laid out why I think this is the case in Comment 61, though I can give more detail if requested. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
