No. You may want to look at <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Standards_in_Public_Life> this does not include keeping things secret just because someone said "let's keep this secret". The exact opposite is true, if you are in a trusted public position then you must show leadership for integrity, honesty and openness even if this does mean explaining your actions that you thought would stay in-camera under a "gentleman's agreement". To do otherwise, as has been readily demonstrated by the history of UK Government political networks, corrupts the movement by turning the "higher ranks" into an Old Boys Club who are more likely to find ways to cover up for each other, rather than be seen to be accountable.
It goes on to spell out that [Chapter Trustees] "are accountable for their decisions and actions to the public and must submit themselves to whatever scrutiny is appropriate to their office." Calling Tomasz a troll as a way of dismissing a serious question about statements made in meetings that Wikimedia donors paid for about the volunteer community is not unreasonable. Had whomever said these things, came forward and explained their point of view, in the same way as the always delightful Christophe Henner has in this thread, then they would have my respect and be seen to comply with the Nolan principles. In comparison to Christophe's openness, Chris Keating's responses to good faith questions about this workshop before it happened, in particular his blatantly dismissive replies to long term Wikimedian well known activist Effeietsanders, seem well below how we expect someone who has formally signed up to the Nolan principles as part of the UK trustee code to behave. As Michael Maggs is the one with a duty as the UK Chairman to enforce this code, I am sure folks will be welcome to ask him about these matters, and his expectation for behaviour from his board members, both when in closed or open meetings or on this email list, during the open meetings at the Wikimedia Conference later this week. I hope such a discussion does not get turned around into "how do we stop Tomasz from trolling us by asking difficult questions". Links: 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boards_training_workshop_March_2014#Typo.3F 2. https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Trustee_Code_of_Conduct Fae On 7 April 2014 15:44, Béria Lima <berial...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> *"@Fae: I do not think that it is within the spirit of the Nolan >> Principles to break a promise given to participants..."* >> > > > I'm sorry but quote someone on a on-line journal does not break the promise > of secrecy? If they speak believing they would never be quoted, put their > words on the Wikipedia Signpost isnt breaking that? > > _____ > *Béria Lima* > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 7 April 2014 09:53, eLib Project <elibproj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey all! >> >> As I have been helping out with wikipedias from time to time, here my >> 5 cent: >> >> @Fae: I do not think that it is within the spirit of the Nolan >> Principles to break a promise given to participants... there is no >> trade-off possible between the principles for the principles >> (Leadership, Honesty, Integrity Selflessness Objectivity vs Openness, >> Accountability ?!). That is, after all the basic concept of >> principles - that they are even followed when you don't want to or >> like to. >> >> @discussion culture: To get to a decision, everyone must be allowed to >> express her/or himself in a discussion without fearing repercussions >> afterwards - otherwise you just get yes-people who will not >> participate or worse, tell you what you want to hear. Why it is >> important to say something stupid like "fuck the community" is because >> it came right from the inside, without prior going through a filter... >> with this reaction people will filter and you will not only loose >> dumb but also intelligent contributions. >> >> @future (sarcasm warning): if you do not wish this sort of >> comments, just say so in a general sense - YES, it's possible to >> get the message across without a witch/wizard hunt and even CHANGE >> the rules for the next time... learning without burning... how the >> world could have looked if this had been used more often... >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> gego >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae Personal and confidential, please do not circulate or re-quote. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>