I agree with Ziko's point entirely here. The two people who have taken part in this discussion so far who were present at the time have not given anything to indicate it was more than a flippant remark made in a stressful situation. Not that I agree with the sentiment of course, but I'm glad that at this meeting a wide variety of views were obviously put forward and robustly discussed.
I really have to wonder, do we want a community where the leaders have to be so anodyne, colourless, and always "on message" that the occasional "spirited" remark results in the Spanish Inquisition? Certainly, I would understand why the person that make the remark might decline to come forward given the relentless hounding that will inevitably occur. It seems to me that what is being asked for by some is more than can be reasonably expected from a human being. Personally, speaking as a Wikimedia donor and a member of the community, I prefer to be lead by fallible human beings rather than robots. Cheers, Craig On 7 April 2014 19:46, Ziko van Dijk <vand...@wmnederland.nl> wrote: > Hello, > I think that a single quote by a unnamed "female Wikimedian", said in > public or in private, is a very small basis for any substantiate > criticism... > Kind regards > Ziko > > > > Am Montag, 7. April 2014 schrieb Fred Bauder : > > > Once the money an organization obtain from grants out matches anything > > they get from anywhere else they become autonomous. "Community support" > > just becomes a box to check. > > > > Fred > > > > > This week's issue of the English Wikipedia Signpost delivers mildly > > > shocking news about the opinion of a "prominent female Wikimedian (...) > > > about the meaning of the movement and the role of the chapters" as > > > expressed during the Boards training workshop that took place between > > > March 1-2 in London. > > > > > > The Wikimedian is quoted by the treasurer of Wikimedia Deutschland, > > > Steffen Prößdorf, as saying: "if we can buy free knowledge, we should > > > do > > > that [and] just forget about the communities" and "Fuck the community, > > > who cares." > > > > > > I understand that the identity of the person will remain secret, given > > > that there is no public list of attendees of the workshop, so let me > > > just say that the idea that chapters can "fuck the community" is > > > absolutely unacceptable and should by rejected by all chapters > > > immediately. > > > > > > Read more at: > > > * > > > < > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-04-02/News_and_notes > > > > > > * > > > < > > > http://steproe.wordpress.com/2014/04/05/die-sinnfrage-was-ist-der-zweck-von-wikimedia-deutschland/ > > > > > > > > > Tomasz > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Ziko van Dijk > > Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland > Postbus 167 > 3500 AD Utrecht > http://wikimedia.nl > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
