Hoi,
You need at least to be able to understand it in the written format. To be
blunt in the final analysis it is officials who elect these seats.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On 6 March 2016 at 09:20, Peter Southwood <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
wrote:

> Hi Gerard,
> You don’t have to be able to communicate in English to vote for the
> representative who needs to communicate in English
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
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> Sent: Sunday, 06 March 2016 9:45 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS
>
> Hoi,
> I am the last one to say that multi-linguality is not important. However,
> given that the affiliates board is selected by an organisation that NEEDS
> to communicate in English, I disagree.
>
> It is vital for people of the affiliates to have a reasonable
> understanding of English and when they do not, this is not the place to
> start remedying it.
> Thanks,
>       GerardM
>
> On 6 March 2016 at 08:36, attolippip <attolip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > As you are (probably) aware, the 2016 affiliate-selected Board seats
> > process has started already. And I do think that the process is broken
> > somewhere [1]. The democracy principles even in my country, though it
> > is far from being a role model for transparency and governance, state
> > that people are equal and they have rights and responsibilities. But
> > the process at the moment is not fair and equal footing is not
> > provided for. It is great to have dedicated friends across the
> > Movement that can translate your statement into German or Chinese, but
> > as long as not all statements are translated into the languages used
> > in all affiliates eligible to vote, I deem the process broken.
> >
> > Thus I formally request that WMF spend enough resources to have all
> > nominations pages translated into all languages requested by the
> > affiliates eligible to vote [2] [3] and all languages used already by
> > the nominees. I am sure that the three facilitators cannot provide it.
> > And there are limits to what volunteers can do [4] or how fast. If WMF
> > refuses, I am going to use my own money [5], it costs 150 UAH (around
> > 6 USD) to have a page translated into Swedish, for example :) I can
> > manage 7 pages translated into as many languages as my personal budget
> > will allow, but I shall do it fairly at least, so we won’t have
> > Susanna’s statement only in English and Spanish, while Osmar’s is also
> > in German, Catalan and French. WMF spends considerable resources
> > (mostly in staff time) on supporting the three "community-elected"
> > seats, but these two seats are not lesser board seats than the three
> "community" ones.
> >
> > The nominees write their statement in English. Nothing wrong with
> > that, of course. But for a tiny little (and big) thing: not everybody
> > understands it well enough to make an informed choice. But even among
> > seven board members of Wikimedia Ukraine, two DO NOT SPEAK English, so
> > they can read the statements only if they [the statements] are
> translated into Ukrainian.
> > They have no choice, actually. In discussing whether to endorse my
> > candidacy, they either have to believe the rest of the Board members
> > that I am the most wonderful candidate and the others are just not as
> > wonderful and that’s it, or they are to ignore the Board meeting where
> > this decision is to be made. They can spend time editing Wikipedia or
> reading instead.
> >
> > And beyond the language issue, there is the informing and
> > participation
> > issue: I am not sure how this process is organised in other
> > affiliates, and how you make your decisions to vote for this or that
> > possibility (in terms of this, I believe that there are seven
> > possibilities presented at the moment, by us, as nominees. So you can
> > accept or decline what we seven offer). You (actually) do not know us
> > and if we are going to be great or poor as Board members of WMF, and
> > if we are the right-for-the-moment choice, but you are going to
> > choose. Are you really going to choose just based on your personal
> > contacts? Remember, in most cases administrators are chosen more
> > objectively, as it is almost impossible to get to know them first
> > personally. They are ‘judged’ by their deeds before, during and after…
> > Were you going to ask your communities what they think about the
> > candidates? And the members of your affiliate? If not, please consider
> > this option. We do have a sad example of an appointed Board member being
> not accepted by us, as the Community.
> >
> > I am sorry for the long letter. I do believe I have a right to request
> > (and
> > suggest) this. I was a part of a team that made sure that the
> > Ukrainian community REALLY knows about the elections so the eligible
> > users on UKWP have voted [6] [7] And we really worked to make that
> > happen. As you can see, Board elections may be of great importance to
> > the whole community. So (at least) informing your own members is
> important, I believe.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
> >
> > Wikimedia Ukraine
> >
> > [1] There is a question about the ‘turnout in this selection process’
> >
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Qu
> > estions#Turnout_in_this_selection_process
> > so you’d think that people care. But do they? Really?
> > [2] I think that contacting each affiliate eligible to vote and asking
> > them if they need help to translate the statements and if yes, what
> > languages are required by memberships/affiliates’ leadership to read the
> statements.
> > By doing this we also make sure that they are aware of the upcoming
> > elections and are engaged
> >
> > [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters
> >
> > [4] Because they just may be not willing to do it
> >
> > [5] well, I was going to translate into Ukrainian all statement
> > anyway, translating is the best way to read the statement thoughtfully
> > :) [6]
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2015-May/077966.html
> > [7]
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2015/St
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