Or - I could be wrong. Should the list of voting chapters be reported? What
is the correct interpretation of closed voting in this case?

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am unable to report which chapters voted. The voting process is closed.
> Right now I have to recommend encouraging all chapters to vote.
>
> The election rules are decided by chapters and chapters have said closed
> election. I do not think this was a well-discussed rule, but whatever the
> case, it cannot be changed by the community and needs to be changed by
> chapters. Community discussion could influence it. I think that it is a
> rule that could change. Asking chapters to have open voting could be
> another reason to contact chapters, or open voting might be a problem - I
> am not sure.
>
> Even if voting were not completely open, there could be other kinds of
> openness, like just a list of who voted. Right now, I cannot provide that.
> Any chapter can look at the list and see who voted and who did not.
>
> For the next election (in three years) I will propose a change. I want it
> to be easier for chapters to self-report their votes in a public way, if
> they choose to do so. Even if the election is closed, enough individual
> chapters seem to want to self-disclose.
>
> yours,
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lane,
>>
>> While I agree that it's good for people to encourage their
>> chapters/other organizations to vote, we would need to know whether
>> they've voted before doing this...
>>
>> As far as I can see, the voting is entirely done on chapterswiki -
>> which is fair enough, and it's reasonable to have this semi-private.
>> However, it means that the only people who can tell if a given chapter
>> has voted or not are people closely associated with the chapters, who
>> presumably already know whether they've voted or not.
>>
>> Would it be possible to have a public list of which organizations have
>> voted and which ones have yet to do so? I don't think this would
>> materially affect the confidentiality of the vote itself, and it might
>> help encourage some groups to actually vote.
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>> On 3 May 2016 at 12:43, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > As of now, 13 of 42 eligible organizations have voted in the 2016
>> chapters'
>> > election for 2 of 10 Wikimedia Foundation seats on the board of
>> trustees.
>> > In the last election, 1/3 of organizations did not vote. Anyone who
>> wishes
>> > to influence the election could do so by asking sleepier chapters to
>> vote
>> > by the May 7 end of election.
>> >
>> > Feel free also to pressure more active chapters to do their duty to
>> support
>> > less organized chapters in voting. Support can mean having
>> > chapter-to-chapter encouragement to vote. All chapters appreciate being
>> > reminded. All eligible organizations are supposed to vote. The election
>> > result is more sound with more votes.
>> >
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016
>> >
>> > yours,
>> >
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