Or - I could be wrong. Should the list of voting chapters be reported? What is the correct interpretation of closed voting in this case?
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:03 AM, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I am unable to report which chapters voted. The voting process is closed. > Right now I have to recommend encouraging all chapters to vote. > > The election rules are decided by chapters and chapters have said closed > election. I do not think this was a well-discussed rule, but whatever the > case, it cannot be changed by the community and needs to be changed by > chapters. Community discussion could influence it. I think that it is a > rule that could change. Asking chapters to have open voting could be > another reason to contact chapters, or open voting might be a problem - I > am not sure. > > Even if voting were not completely open, there could be other kinds of > openness, like just a list of who voted. Right now, I cannot provide that. > Any chapter can look at the list and see who voted and who did not. > > For the next election (in three years) I will propose a change. I want it > to be easier for chapters to self-report their votes in a public way, if > they choose to do so. Even if the election is closed, enough individual > chapters seem to want to self-disclose. > > yours, > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk> > wrote: > >> Hi Lane, >> >> While I agree that it's good for people to encourage their >> chapters/other organizations to vote, we would need to know whether >> they've voted before doing this... >> >> As far as I can see, the voting is entirely done on chapterswiki - >> which is fair enough, and it's reasonable to have this semi-private. >> However, it means that the only people who can tell if a given chapter >> has voted or not are people closely associated with the chapters, who >> presumably already know whether they've voted or not. >> >> Would it be possible to have a public list of which organizations have >> voted and which ones have yet to do so? I don't think this would >> materially affect the confidentiality of the vote itself, and it might >> help encourage some groups to actually vote. >> >> Andrew. >> >> On 3 May 2016 at 12:43, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > As of now, 13 of 42 eligible organizations have voted in the 2016 >> chapters' >> > election for 2 of 10 Wikimedia Foundation seats on the board of >> trustees. >> > In the last election, 1/3 of organizations did not vote. Anyone who >> wishes >> > to influence the election could do so by asking sleepier chapters to >> vote >> > by the May 7 end of election. >> > >> > Feel free also to pressure more active chapters to do their duty to >> support >> > less organized chapters in voting. Support can mean having >> > chapter-to-chapter encouragement to vote. All chapters appreciate being >> > reminded. All eligible organizations are supposed to vote. The election >> > result is more sound with more votes. >> > >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016 >> > >> > yours, >> > >> > -- >> > Lane Rasberry >> > user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia >> > 206.801.0814 >> > l...@bluerasberry.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> >> >> -- >> - Andrew Gray >> andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > -- > Lane Rasberry > user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia > 206.801.0814 > l...@bluerasberry.com > -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 l...@bluerasberry.com _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
