Rogol,

this was the link previously provided on this project:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data/Overview including
links to previous documents.

Cheers,
Denny


On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:32 AM Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Lisa
>
> You say that "Structured Data on Commons was in our product roadmap, so
> this grant is not diverting our attention.  The grant simply enables us to
> accelerate the work we were planning to do".  Please would you publish, or
> point to, a version of that product roadmap that can inform the community's
> participation in such planning exercises as the 2017 Wikimedia Movement
> Strategy and other more tactical product planning processes.
>
> Thanks in advance
> "Rogol"
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Lisa Gruwell <lgruw...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Pete and Gerard-
> >
> > I just wanted to give my thoughts on restricted gifts.  Like most things,
> > there are both good and bad restricted gifts.  They can be bad if a
> funder
> > is making a well-intentioned gift that none-the-less pulls the
> organization
> > in direction that they were not planning to go.  Or even worse, when a
> > funder pays for something outside of an org's plans that has ongoing
> > maintenance cost that are not covered in the grant.
> >
> > This is why the WMF board reviews all restricted grants per our gift
> policy
> > <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Gift_policy>.  Those are the types
> > of
> > dynamics that the board considers when they review a restricted grant.
> >
> > Structured Data on Commons was in our product roadmap, so this grant is
> not
> > diverting our attention.  The grant simply enables us to accelerate the
> > work we were planning to do.  In terms of restrictions, we have to follow
> > through with the plan we submitted.  In other words, do what we said we
> are
> > going to do.  I think that accountability is a good thing.  And the Sloan
> > Foundation is a great long-term funder of WMF.  If something changes as
> the
> > work progress, I have no doubt we could have a reasonable conversation
> with
> > them about adjusting the plan.
> >
> > Best,
> > Lisa
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > Maybe restricted but the subject matter is exactly what we want anyway.
> > > Where I have my reservations is that Wikidata will be set in stone and
> > > stuff that just is not right will be with us for forever. With more
> money
> > > it does not need to be a huge problem because it makes it more
> > manageable.
> > > Thanks,
> > >       GerardM
> > >
> > > On 9 January 2017 at 21:52, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Structured data on Commons is a huge and important area -- for one
> > thing,
> > > > the whole Media Viewer project would have gone much more smoothly if
> > > there
> > > > were underlying structured data to rely on. Kudos to WMF and Sloan
> for
> > > the
> > > > focus on this issue!
> > > >
> > > > If I'm not mistaken, this is by far the most extravagant restricted
> > grant
> > > > in the history of the WMF. I believe the Stanton Foundation's
> usability
> > > > grant ($890k in 2008)[1] and Public Policy Initiative grant ($1.2
> > million
> > > > in 2010)[2] are the only ones that comes close. In the past, WMF
> board
> > > > members have expressed great skepticism about -- specifically -- the
> > > Sloan
> > > > Foundation's influence, when it sought to place an observer in WMF
> > board
> > > > meetings. A former WMF Executive Director has written at length about
> > the
> > > > dangers of restricted grants.
> > > >
> > > > It appears there is a new theory in play around restricted grants.
> Will
> > > > somebody be expressing it publicly? Will the past practice of
> > publishing
> > > > the details of the grant expectations be followed?[3]
> > > >
> > > > -Pete
> > > > --
> > > > [[User:Peteforsyth]]
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2008/12/03/improved-usability-
> > > > in-our-future/
> > > > [2]
> > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/May_
> > > > 2010_Wikimedia_Foundation_will_engage_academic_experts_
> > > > and_students_to_improve_public_policy_information
> > > > [3]
> > > > https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_Policy_
> > > > Initiative_project_details
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Wes Moran <wmo...@wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Wikimedia community,
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s our delight to inform you that we received a US$3,015,000
> grant
> > > from
> > > > > the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation
> > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_P._Sloan_Foundation> [1] to
> > > > expedite
> > > > > development of structured data on Commons. The grant will be given
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > > course of three years, and will allow us to develop a team, in
> > > > > collaboration with the Wikidata team at Wikimedia Deutschland, that
> > can
> > > > > focus on integrating the structured data features of Wikidata into
> > > > > describing the media files on Commons.
> > > > >
> > > > > This work will allow us to expedite features both on the Wikidata
> > > > > development roadmap, and in other products supported by the
> Wikimedia
> > > > > Foundation. The grant also provides funding to ensure that movement
> > > > > stakeholders, like Wiki Loves Monuments and GLAM-Wiki program
> > leaders,
> > > > and
> > > > > external partners who contribute heavily to Commons, such as GLAMs,
> > can
> > > > be
> > > > > involved in the development.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have drafted a high level overview of the grant and its scope,
> > > > available
> > > > > on Commons
> > > > > <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_
> > > data/Sloan_Grant>
> > > > > [2]. A blog post about the grant is also available on the Wikimedia
> > > blog
> > > > > <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/01/09/sloan-foundation-
> > > structured-data>
> > > > > [3].
> > > > >
> > > > > We are currently in the process of identifying the technical lead
> for
> > > the
> > > > > project. If you have questions, Alex Stinson, the Foundation’s
> > > GLAM-Wiki
> > > > > strategist, will be leading the community engagement and
> > communications
> > > > for
> > > > > the project until we hire a community liaison as part of the grant.
> > > Stay
> > > > > tuned for more details about the project in the coming months.
> > > > >
> > > > > We’re excited to be able to support this project, and look forward
> to
> > > > your
> > > > > participation in its development.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > Wes Moran and Maggie Dennis
> > > > >
> > > > > *Wes Moran, Vice President of Product*
> > > > > *Maggie Dennis, Interim Chief of Community Engagement *
> > > > > *Wikimedia Foundation*
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_P._Sloan_Foundation
> > > > > [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data/
> > > > Sloan_Grant
> > > > > [3] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/01/09/sloan-foundation-
> > > > structured-data
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