​Agree the WMF staff dont always but the community/committee level does I
have experienced it first hand, both personally and as a chapter there are
policies written about not biting people so it happens all to regularly.

Maybe there is also the influence of being isolated in Australia that we
dont get the opportunity to participate on any meaningful regular basis
​with the wider community that we cant observe or be part of those softer
process nor hear about them taking place.



On 8 February 2017 at 16:57, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Observation: When we place trust within the projects and the community it
> > appears that we like to grab the biggest stick possible to whack people
> > with it with at the first opportunity.
>
>
> I am not going to comment on this particular case - although I believe that
> to make a fair judgment one would probably have to go into a bit more
> details than compare the dates of report submissions.
>
> I have to say that in my whole hands-on experience with the WMF staff
> responsible for relations with our affiliates over the last 5+ years, I
> have NEVER observed their urge to "grab the biggest stick possible to whack
> people at the first opportunity" as you put it. Have they misunderstood
> cultural nuances? Sure, sometimes. Have they been driven by their own
> strong view how things should be done? Definitely (not sure if it is always
> a bad thing, btw). Have they decided about the things, that the community
> should have more influence on? Maybe.
>
> However, on a number of occassions I have seen the WMF staff to be really
> supportive and passionate about the affiliate work. The drive to punish
> anyone is something I've never observed. For the good or for the bad, they
> are professionals. They definitely occasionally make mistakes, like we all
> do - and these should be constructively discussed, while aiming at the best
> possible result for the community. But I believe that suggesting that the
> WMF is simply waiting for opportunities to use disproportionate punishments
> on affiliates is outright assuming bad faith, and is unfair.
>
> best,
>
> dariusz ("pundit"), current community-elected trustee
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