Still, in some cases the WMF global ban sounds like a revenge to an individual, and when (understandably) WMF refuses to elaborate what was the motivation for a global ban this impression gets even stronger.
Cheers Yaroslav On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Robert Fernandez <wikigamal...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't see the point of paying for legal and community safety experts > if we aren't going to allow them to engage in their area of > professional expertise. Transparency, due process, and community > governance are important values, but they are not the skills you need > to bring to bear when it comes to issues such as, for example, > predatory individuals victimizing underage editors. I know this > sounds like "won't somebody think of the children!" but the thought of > untrained volunteers, however sensitive and well meaning they are, > attempting to deal with an issue like this frightening, and the > thought of what passes for community governance on the English > Wikipedia attempting to deal with this is positively bonechilling. It > has very real consequences for the real, offline lives of victims and > opens volunteers and projects to significant legal jeopardy. > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > * Based on what I currently know, I disagree with WMF's choice to > site-ban > > individuals instead of leaving that decision to the community, > particularly > > when the evidence is not public. It seems to me that this practice is > > incompatible with transparency, due process, and community governance of > > Wikimedia content sites (which notably excludes the Foundation wiki). > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>