* Crickets * If you were expecting a reply to the suggested "Agreement from the WMF to reform the system", perhaps it needs to be raised in a more formal fashion somewhere where WMF Legal or the CEO might feel they need to answer?
Fae On 20 February 2017 at 08:55, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm glad that we're having this discussion, as there are several points > being made that should be considered in the documentation and design of the > global bans system. > > I'm trying to think of what next steps would look like for reforming this > system. I'd suggest something like the following: > > 0. Agreement from WMF to reform the system, and a timeline for doing so. > For example, perhaps there would be agreement to start a "consultation" on > this matter in Q4. The consultation could be designed jointly by > representatives from WMF Legal, WMF SuSa, and community volunteers > (preferably representing a variety of roles and content projects). Note > that for this to work, the designers will need to cooperate with each > other, or the process could descend into protracted disagreements that > would make further progress be very difficult. > > 1. After the consultation is designed, it can be published for public > input. (That includes input from WMF employees and contractors, individuals > who are associated with Wikimedia affiliate organizations, and individual > community members.) > > 2. Based on that consultation, the group that was assembled for part 1 can > work together to design a new system. While unanimity is unlikely, > consensus would be preferable. Where the group is uncertain or has internal > disagreements, multiple options can be drafted for the community to > consider in the following phase. > > 3. Based on the results from phase 2, a community RFC can be conducted. The > RFC should be closed by one or more community stewards. > > The biggest downside that I see to this process is that the community > members who volunteer to participate in the consultation design and system > design phases will need to commit dozens of hours of their time, and many > community members who are highly qualified for this kind of work are > already busy with countless other tasks, problems, and projects. So there > will need to be some consideration of how to provide volunteers some relief > from their other responsibilities while they participate in the design > process. > > Pine > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>