* Crickets *

If you were expecting a reply to the suggested "Agreement from the WMF
to reform the system", perhaps it needs to be raised in a more formal
fashion somewhere where WMF Legal or the CEO might feel they need to
answer?

Fae

On 20 February 2017 at 08:55, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm glad that we're having this discussion, as there are several points
> being made that should be considered in the documentation and design of the
> global bans system.
>
> I'm trying to think of what next steps would look like for reforming this
> system. I'd suggest something like the following:
>
> 0. Agreement from WMF to reform the system, and a timeline for doing so.
> For example, perhaps there would be agreement to start a "consultation" on
> this matter in Q4. The consultation could be designed jointly by
> representatives from WMF Legal, WMF SuSa, and community volunteers
> (preferably representing a variety of roles and content projects). Note
> that for this to work, the designers will need to cooperate with each
> other, or the process could descend into protracted disagreements that
> would make further progress be very difficult.
>
> 1. After the consultation is designed, it can be published for public
> input. (That includes input from WMF employees and contractors, individuals
> who are associated with Wikimedia affiliate organizations, and individual
> community members.)
>
> 2. Based on that consultation, the group that was assembled for part 1 can
> work together to design a new system. While unanimity is unlikely,
> consensus would be preferable. Where the group is uncertain or has internal
> disagreements, multiple options can be drafted for the community to
> consider in the following phase.
>
> 3. Based on the results from phase 2, a community RFC can be conducted. The
> RFC should be closed by one or more community stewards.
>
> The biggest downside that I see to this process is that the community
> members who volunteer to participate in the consultation design and system
> design phases will need to commit dozens of hours of their time, and many
> community members who are highly qualified for this kind of work are
> already busy with countless other tasks, problems, and projects. So there
> will need to be some consideration of how to provide volunteers some relief
> from their other responsibilities while they participate in the design
> process.
>
> Pine
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