As I'm looking at that talk page, I see a situation which looks like no one will "win", which is the opposite of how I would like discussions about policy to go in the ideal world.
Trying to salvage that situation is more than I can take on at this time. My hunch is that if the RfC is approved, even if I would change parts of it, it'll be something that I can mostly accept and to which I may propose amendments to the future. A more difficult web of problems will be the relationships that are fraying and the accusations that have been going back and forth. I don't have time to investigate all that now, and even if I did, I'm not sure that it would do much good. I think it would be helpful, and would be appropriate, for WMF employees to *support* conversations like the development of CoCs in places like Phabricator. But trying to *lead* those conversations is different matter. Pine _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>