Hi Todd,

If you are active in Commons, and demonstrably understand copyright, ToO,
DeMinimis, FOP, you are very welcome as a sysop there, AFAIK:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators

There are some minimal requests of participation, which should not be an
obstacle for anyone fairly active there.

Best,
Paulo

Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia domingo, 12/05/2019 à(s)
22:43:

> I wouldn't even have any idea what I'd need to do to be a sysop on Commons.
> I frequently do find copyvio images and nominate them for deletion on
> Commons while working on the English Wikipedia spam queue (and yes, I'm
> familiar with copyright law, and they have all, to my knowledge, indeed
> been found to be copyvios and deleted), but I wouldn't even have the first
> clue to what being a Commons admin would entail or what the expectations
> are.
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 2:28 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <
> paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Anyone doing Commons stuff has to do have Commons skills. Wikipedia
> sysops
> > are not asked to have them, and do not have them by default.
> >
> > If Wikipedia sysops that deal with copyright want to be Commons admins,
> > they can apply anytime for that role. Otherwise, render to Caesar the
> > things that are Caesar's.
> >
> > Paulo
> >
> >
> > Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> escreveu no dia domingo, 12/05/2019 à(s)
> > 21:13:
> >
> > > Major projects surely deal with a significant amount of uploads in an
> > > efficient way.
> > >
> > > Vito
> > >
> > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 17:31 Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > > paulospern...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > I absolutely disagree with this. A Wikipedia sysop do not necessarily
> > > has -
> > > > and from my experience, most of the time hasn't - the necessary
> skills
> > to
> > > > deal with copyright.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Paulo
> > > >
> > > > A domingo, 12 de mai de 2019, 14:35, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com>
> > > > escreveu:
> > > >
> > > > > I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to delete/undelete
> > images
> > > > on
> > > > > commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky commons' uploads
> come
> > > > from
> > > > > cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them could work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vito
> > > > >
> > > > > Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman <
> > > jmh...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ha scritto:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons
> interested
> > > in
> > > > > > having more admins?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay
> > for
> > > > > > > access to the Google image matching API access so we could run
> a
> > > > > > > copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not
> be
> > > > > > > terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment
> to
> > > see
> > > > > > > if this aspect of the more boring side of sysop tools could be
> > > > > > > reduced.[1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not specifically advocating auto-deletion, but daily
> housekeeping
> > > > > > > image matches to highly likely copyrighted categories would
> make
> > > mass
> > > > > > > housekeeping very easy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A separate old chestnut was my proposal to introduce systemic
> > image
> > > > > > > hashes, which neatly show "close" image matches.[2] With a
> > Commons
> > > > hat
> > > > > > > on, such a project would be of far more immediate pragmatic use
> > > than
> > > > > > > mobile-related and structured data-related projects that seem
> to
> > > suck
> > > > > > > up all the oxygen and volunteer time available.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note that the history of these project/funding ideas is so
> long,
> > > that
> > > > > > > several of the most experienced long term volunteers that were
> > > > > > > originally interested have since retired. Without some positive
> > > short
> > > > > > > term encouragement, not only do these ideas never reach the
> > useful
> > > > > > > experiment stage, but the volunteers involved simply fade away.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Links
> > > > > > > 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2016/02#Google_has_opened_an_API_for_image_recognition
> > > > > > > 2. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Imagehash
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fae
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani <
> > ladsgr...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores
> > > > support
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > images that might be copyright violation, or both.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter <
> > > ymb...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared
> with
> > > the
> > > > > > > amount of
> > > > > > > > > material it has to deal with.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > Yaroslav
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <
> > > > > > > benjaminik...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing
> > or
> > > > > > capable
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <
> > > > polime...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all
> > > > undeleted.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing
> > > several
> > > > > > > > > GLAM-related
> > > > > > > > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page
> > > > describing
> > > > > > > what it
> > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then
> you
> > > can
> > > > > > > create a
> > > > > > > > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > See:
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes
> > > with
> > > > > > > Common's
> > > > > > > > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to
> > > promote
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > project
> > > > > > > > > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to
> do
> > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > similar.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for
> > uploaders,
> > > > but
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds  of copyright
> > > > > violating
> > > > > > > > > files a
> > > > > > > > > > > day:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > See the list from just one day:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins
> have
> > to
> > > > > cope
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and
> > after
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > time -
> > > > > > > > > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves...
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > issue
> > > > > > > > > > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think - sooner or later - all this system - uploads -
> > > > > screening
> > > > > > > > > uploads
> > > > > > > > > > > by admins, and OTRS agreements - needs deep rethinking.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 10:48 Mister Thrapostibongles <
> > > > > > > > > > > thrapostibong...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> Hello all,
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and
> the
> > > > > Commons
> > > > > > > > > > components
> > > > > > > > > > >> of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia
> > > > Commons: a
> > > > > > > highly
> > > > > > > > > > >> hostile place for multimedia students contributions"
> at
> > > the
> > > > > > > Education
> > > > > > > > > > >> Newsletter
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Commons:_a_highly_hostile_place_for_multimedia_students_contributions
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> As far as I can understand it, some students on an
> > > Outreach
> > > > > > > project
> > > > > > > > > > >> uploaded some rather well-made video material, and
> > comeone
> > > > on
> > > > > > > Commons
> > > > > > > > > > >> deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be
> > > > student
> > > > > > > projects
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > >> so concluded they were copyright violations.  But some
> > > > rather
> > > > > > odd
> > > > > > > > > > remarks
> > > > > > > > > > >> were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of
> > > > uploaded
> > > > > > > > > > copyrighted
> > > > > > > > > > >> content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco
> > that
> > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > care."
> > > > > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > > > > >> "you have regarded Commons as little more than free
> > cloud
> > > > > > storage
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > >> images you intend to use on Wikipedia ".
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Thrapostibongles
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