I shall quit participating in Wikimedia. I cannot stand people with that kind of attitude.
Hartwig From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fanny Schertzer Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:53 PM To: Wikimedians in Switzerland Subject: Re: [Wikimediach-l] (no subject) 2013/10/16 Hartwig Thomas <[email protected]> The credit is not wrong, but possibly somewhat incomplete. It's not incomplete, it's non existent. It names the repository instead of the source, the author is not mentioned, let's not even talk about the license (which, I admit, is the trickiest part of the job). I've seen tons of my pictures better credited than that, by people far from being specialists of this stuff. As you well know, much of the content of Wikimedia has more than one author and it is common knowledge that all of the content of Wikimedia is published as CC-BY-SA or GFDL. In the case of many authors attribution is often difficult. (In the US copyright can even be attributed to an institution – e.g. Wikimedia – rather than a person.) This picture has only one author, who is clearly mentioned as such. This particular case is quite straightforward. So, yes, it is desirable, that the license and the author are attributed appropriately and I am sure, that Bruno will do so soon, after having read your kind reminder. The example also shows, that it is highly desirable, that all such licensing information be embedded in the (Dublin core) metadata of such a file. Then it will travel with the object. I vote for adding that to the list of best practices. Which is the case in the file we're talking about: the author and the license are clearly mentioned in the metadata of the original file. What this example shows above all, it's that we are not even capable to observe the rules we ask others to comply with. In Switzerland we have by law the right of quotation – also applicable to images! And in this respect the quoted website has behaved just like any other newspaper or media in Switzerland (e.g. the NZZ), by citing the source. I regularly look for a precedent or authority from the Federal tribunal backing this statement, I never found any. Do you have a reference? I would be indefinitely grateful if you do because this question has been haunting me for years (seriously). Anyway, in the present case, this is no short quotation suiting into art. 25 of the Swiss law about author's right, this is a copy of the whole work, falling into art. 10 of that same law. This use is not covered by any quotation right. So, please!, let us not act like the copyright lobby and tear each other to pieces internally!! Of course not. Which does not mean "let's do what we want and leave the intellectual property law in all its harshness to the plebs as we're so high above that". Fanny
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