Point taken. Each service meets a different users needs.
Jeff Neithercutt Information Security Analyst 1836 Sierra Gardens Ste. 150 MAC A0783-011 Roseville, CA. 95611 (916) 787-3853 Security Operations Center Corporate Information Protection "Securing your network, one machine at a time!" >This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient[s] and may contain privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by phone or reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > -----Original Message----- From: Greg Herlein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > Define "much better"? Their pricing isn't even CLOSE to being as low > as Pacbell's....and yes, pricing is an issue.....I'm getting the same > performance as the 3rd tier of Rawbandwidth.com for $30.00 per month > less......and other than having to fight with them to get connected > initially, the service has been flawless ever since. 1. real no kidding IP, not PPPoE. 2. *undersubscribed* DSLAM, not oversubscribed. I *routinely* get much higher than my promised throughput. 3. no issues at all in the terms of service about what I may and may not run on my side of the pipe. As long as I'm not a spam source, I can do whatever the heck I want. And they are not going to filter me or otherwise restrict my traffic. 4. linux friendly support on the other end of the line. 5. *knowledgable* support on the other end of the line. 6. *real* static IP addresses, not dynamic, and not likely to get changed out from under me with little or no notice. 7. added IP addresses (subnetted) for a few bucks more a month. Now, if price is an issue, then I most certainly understand. I'm kinda there myself. But I'll pay a little more for these "better's" - I'll drop my fax line before I downgrade my DSL line to save $30 a month. The reality of PacHell's pricing is that it's aimed at the mainstream user who does not care about the issues above. Fine - let the Win32 casual-user crowd have their DSL that way. But I suspect - and recent lawsuits seem to indicate that I'm right - that PacHell is actually selling DSL *below* cost to try to drive companies like RawBandwidth from the business. If that happens we'll see we whole new definition of "better" and it won't be to our liking. I see my personal commitment to "better" not only as paying a few dollars more for better service, but as a partial insurance policy to keep companies like that around. But hey, your results may vary. Greg -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
