If you are using XP then there is no need to install anything on your
system, the PPoE client is built-in.
This will allow you to go thru the setup screens and then you can use the
uname & password on whatever router you want.
Also (Shameless plug mode on) Why would you want to get DSL from a phone
company when you could get it from a company that only does DSL? Covad
allows wireless on their DSL lines.
(Shameless plug mode off)

Thanks
-d

-----Original Message-----
From: Enrique LaRoche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:18 AM
To: David L. Sifry
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless


Do your registration on one of their dialup lines.
or get IE6
Or use an older version of Enternet.
Ultimately the Windoze world has a cost, "you kind of have to go along with
the program" at least at some minimal level.

-----Original Message-----
From: David L. Sifry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Enrique LaRoche
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless


<Rant Mode>

Yeah, just try doing it on a windows 95 box or on a box that doesn't have IE
5.5 or later ALREADY INSTALLED.  In the end, I had to pull out my laptop,
run WinXP in VMWare just  so that I could complete the freakin' PPPoE
registration process with IE 6.  And all of this was because the idiots at
SBC had set up a "super-duper" IE-specific javascript form that tried to
correct mistakes for you.  If they had added a simple HTML form for those of
us who are using, oh say, Macs or older windoze boxes, it would have been
CUSTOMER FRIENDLY...

Grrr, I wasted far too much time with their idiotic setup procedure, I'm
glad that I didn't set up any of the privacy-infringing yahoo stuff. Have
you looked at the Yahoo-SBC terms of service and their privacy policy, btw?
Whew!  Just the bandwidth, please.

</Rant mode>

Dave

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 09:58, Enrique LaRoche wrote:
> Now I know why my customers are willing to pay for my help on these
issues.
> You can load the Enternet software with no bad effects.
> I have it loaded on win xp win 2k pro 98 me etc... This is not a 
> problem. It can even be helpful to have it installed if you need to 
> trouble shoot with SBC support. Loading their software wont do 
> anything bad to your computer. What a load of smelly Cod's heads...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless
>
>
> Only problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer.  My brother just 
> signed up, and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to 
> load their CD
on
> your system and connect directly to complete your installation.  The 
> only way around this is to sign up on line, so you can pick your user 
> name and password before they activate your account.  This is very 
> important, as loading their softwrae will DESTROY your ability to do 
> anything with that computer ever again......if you must load it, I 
> suggest getting an old pentium pc and loading the crap on that, so you 
> won't care when it
destroys
> your system.  Once you have your user name and password setup, then 
> follow the first posts instructions.  Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE 
> the remote administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple 
> vulnerabilities in it.  Other than that, I have helped several others 
> set up this way, and am running this way myself, very happily, for 
> over two years.  Very seldom necessary to reboot unless you are 
> running something pre-win2k......
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:23 AM
> To: David L. Sifry; r jain
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless
>
>
> The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE connection so 
> you don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! SBC 
> DSL on
you
> computer.
> At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your Linksys router, select the
PPPoE
> login method with your SBC login name/password and the Keep Alive 
> option. Then go to the Status tab page and press the Connect button.  
> The router will then display a message indicating that you are 
> connected.  Everything should work fine after waiting about 30 seconds 
> for your computer and
router
> to re-synch with this new PPPoE connection.
> Sometimes I do have to reboot my laptop and WSB11 Linksys Wireless 
> Bridge after I re-connect my router to my SBC connection.  But once I 
> connect, I leave my router on with the connection alive and only 
> reboot my router
about
> once a week.
> Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too.
> -chris
>  "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the DSL 
> modem, and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as 802.11b 
> wireless. You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11.
>
> They run about $90 on Amazon and there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a sweet 
> deal.
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote:
> > Friends:
> >
> > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could not 
> > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search)
> >
> > I just signed up with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem 
> > with one ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop.
> >
> > I want to add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800 
> > or so option from SBC.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --rajiv
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ___________________________________! 
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