-----Original Message-----
    From: "Dawn DiPietro"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    Sent: 1/10/07 1:22:52 PM
    To: "WISPA General List"<[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
      Brad,
    
    Here is a link you might want to read up on.
    http://muniwireless.com/municipal/1556
    
    Regards,
    Dawn DiPietro
    
    Brad Belton wrote:
    
    >I'll agree with Mark on this.  There are many that are exploiting city
    >counsel's across the country to only line their own pockets.  I have read
    >about one muni-wifi failure after another...point me to a real success
    >story.  As a percentage my guess is the failures far, far outweigh the
    >successes.
    >
    >If a city wants to drive business and people to their community then how
    >about offering free water or free garbage pickup instead of free Internet.
    >How about offering lower taxes?  
    >
    >Let the city offer something free to drive people into the community that
    >EVERYONE can benefit from.  After all the Internet is only for the 'rich',
    >right?  <grin>
    >
    >Brad
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
    >Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
    >Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:21 AM
    >To: WISPA General List
    >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
    >
    >Mark,
    >
    >Many if not most RFP's today require a percentage of accounts be 
    >discounted heavily or given away for just the reasons you are describing.
    >
    >The term "Digital Inclusion" is used in this document to describe the 
    >goal of expanding the capabilities of computing technology worldwide to 
    >better serve social and economic challenges of underserved communities, 
    >both rural and urban.
    >
    >If you would get off your own train and look around and maybe read a 
    >thing or two on this subject maybe you would understand this a little 
    >better.
    >
    >Regards,
    >Dawn DiPietro
    >
    >
    >
    >Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
    >
    >  
    >
    >>----- Original Message ----- 
    >>From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    >>To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
    >>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:13 AM
    >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Muni networks, the good, bad and ugly
    >>
    >>
    >> 
    >>
    >>    
    >>
    >>>There are numerous studies that demonstrate that towns that lack
    >>>broadband are economically deficient compared to towns with broadband.
    >>>Job growth, tax base increase, home value stability, higher per capita
    >>>income.
    >>>   
    >>>
    >>>      
    >>>
    >>The economic deficiency drives the lack of broadband, not the other way
    >>around.
    >>
    >>You can't raise the dog to life by wagging it's tail.
    >>
    >>I live in one of those towns, and have many of them in the region
    >>surrounding me.   Broadband is not the issue.  The economic conditions are
    >>driven ENTIRELY by other factors.    Just like poor roads don't help, a
    >>    
    >>
    >lack
    >  
    >
    >>of connectivity may be some hindrance, but building a superhighway to a
    >>depressed community will simply NOT create magic.    Broadband brought to
    >>these places may have some neglible impact, but the lack is not  the cause
    >>of economic problems, nor will provisioning it "fix" things.
    >>
    >>Unfortunately, too many people are riding this train.    Politicians are
    >>holding it out as a "fix" ( BB access has never hurt a town's economy, of
    >>course) for things when it isn't, and lots of businessmen are exploiting
    >>that for thier own pocketbooks.   The people who are being sold this are
    >>    
    >>
    >the
    >  
    >
    >>unwitting victims.   They need real solutions to other real problems, and
    >>ignoring them and offering fashionable modern services as a fix is a red
    >>herring...
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    >>neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East 
Washington
    >>email me at mark at neofast dot net
    >>541-969-8200
    >>Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net
    >>
    >> 
    >>
    >>    
    >>
    >
    >  
    >
    
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